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Threats & Consequences Written by Robbin (10/3/2010 6:58 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Sir thomas and intentions, penned by Bridget D

Sir Thomas was aware of Tom’s liberal dispositions ‘about the time of her [Fanny’s] entering the family’ (2). His thoughts were ‘His eldest son was careless and extravagant, and had already given him much uneasiness’ (2). One way to deal with Tom’s financial irresponsibility would have been threats. Threaten to leave him in the lurch for depts., threaten his income and threaten some occupation to occupy his time. For threats to be effective at all Sir Thomas would have to be able to act on them. I do not know Sir Thomas has control of Tom’s income and even has the ability to threaten it. I also do not know how easy it would have been to force Tom into a profession. Tom’s situation is not any more amendable to changing his career plan so late in life than is Edmund’s giving up the clergy.

Sir Thomas could have warned and then when the time came refused to pay off Tom’s debts. His finding a way to pay the debts and trying to show (teach) and appeal to Tom’s conscious suggests he did not consider abandoning his son to possible legal retribution a viable option. It seems Sir Thomas’ wants to teach Tom to do right because it is right rather than threaten him into doing right. After all who would be able to threaten Tom into doing right when he is Sir Thomas? Although selling the Mansfield living deprives Edmund in the near future it will be his eventually so I think it makes far more sense to sell the living than to sell off a piece of property and reduce the wealth of the estate forever. (:D)

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We respect your pheasants, sir Robbin (9/26/2010 11:11 p.m.)

Parents' responsibility. Rachel G (9/27/2010 12:51 p.m.)
- Looks can be Deceiving Robbin (9/29/2010 9:02 p.m.)
  - However, when the parent's presence Ramya (9/29/2010 10:49 p.m.)
    - Faulty not Cruel Robbin (9/30/2010 12:39 p.m.)
      - Sir Thomas   Bridget D (10/1/2010 1:22 a.m.)
        
        Mistakes do not equal Poor Intent   Robbin (10/1/2010 4:01 a.m.)
        
        Sir thomas and intentions   Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:43 a.m.)
        
        Threats & Consequences   Robbin (10/3/2010 6:58 p.m.)
        
        Financially more viable   Ramya (10/3/2010 9:17 p.m.)
        
        Giving or Selling Church Livings   Robbin (10/4/2010 5:10 a.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas the Politician   Tarn (10/15/2010 4:25 p.m.)
        
        Thanks Tarn   Robbin (10/17/2010 12:47 a.m.)
        
        Thanks again, Tarn,   Carol (10/15/2010 11:32 p.m.)
        
        Great information!   Ramya (10/15/2010 9:42 p.m.)
        
        Wow!   Rachel G (10/15/2010 5:48 p.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas and Tom   Bridget D (10/7/2010 7:14 a.m.)
        
        Then you, I and Sir Thomas agree   Robbin (10/7/2010 7:31 p.m.)
        
        Tom and Sir Thomas   Bridget D (10/10/2010 6:24 a.m.)
        
        Make it Pay or Suffer the Consequences   Robbin (10/10/2010 11:49 p.m.)
        
        Yes,   Ramya (10/4/2010 9:21 a.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris – you must assist us   Robbin (10/4/2010 3:07 p.m.)
        
        What would have been the punishment?   Patricia AA (10/3/2010 8:02 p.m.)
        
        Spunging House   Robbin (10/4/2010 5:19 a.m.)
        
        Tom and money   Erica (10/2/2010 1:39 p.m.)
        
        Tom's money   Bridget D (10/2/2010 2:57 p.m.)
        
        Tom's extravagance - horse racing & gambling?   Rachel G (10/1/2010 4:26 a.m.)
        
        Horses and racing   Robbin (10/1/2010 11:56 a.m.)
    - Harsh words? Barb JA (9/30/2010 8:46 a.m.)
      - Bleak House   Robbin (10/1/2010 12:20 a.m.)
        
        Never much laughing   Barb JA (10/1/2010 10:36 a.m.)
        
        Great analysis!   Rachel G (10/1/2010 4:10 a.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas and the children   Bridget D (10/1/2010 7:10 a.m.)
        
        Thanks and very good points! (:D) nfm   Robbin (10/1/2010 4:18 a.m.)
  - How about ch19: 'a home which shuts out noisy pleasures'? nfm Tom P2 (9/29/2010 9:54 p.m.)
    - True, yet Robbin (9/30/2010 12:56 p.m.)
    - Or ch.21, para 3 & 4. Rachel G (9/30/2010 4:59 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas Bridget D (9/29/2010 1:24 a.m.)
- nurture v. nature question Karen G (9/27/2010 1:39 p.m.)
  - Can it ever be answered? Barb JA (9/29/2010 9:25 a.m.)
  - Edmund the exception. Rachel G (9/27/2010 5:11 p.m.)
    - Edmund and Sir T Bridget D (10/1/2010 1:45 a.m.)
      - Context   Barb JA (10/1/2010 5:52 a.m.)
        
        Edmund   Bridget D (10/1/2010 7:05 a.m.)
        
        Good points   Barb JA (10/1/2010 9:57 a.m.)
        
        MP Dull   Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:49 a.m.)
    - Another similarity... Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 8:35 a.m.)
      - Agree nfm BarbaraB (9/29/2010 11:01 p.m.)
      - Well spotted! nfm Rachel G (9/28/2010 9:41 a.m.)
Sir Thomas Bridget D (9/27/2010 1:17 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas – No stranger to fault Robbin (9/27/2010 5:27 p.m.)
  - Learning to respect pheasants Mia I. (9/28/2010 5:40 a.m.)
    - Mismanagement in Education Robbin (9/29/2010 12:10 a.m.)
      - Three governesses and an aunt Mia I. (9/29/2010 8:33 a.m.)

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