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The Limerick Winner! Carol (10/27/2010 10:53 p.m.)

Congrats to all the limericists (?) :-) kathleen (elder) (10/28/2010 5:14 p.m.)
Congratulations! Lisa Dalrymple (10/28/2010 10:45 a.m.)
Congratulations, BarbB! KatharineW (10/28/2010 9:11 a.m.)
The level of limerick creativity was amazing... jeffrey (10/28/2010 8:44 a.m.)

Thank you all Carol (10/26/2010 10:01 p.m.)

Thank you Catherine Ann (10/27/2010 8:26 p.m.)
Thanks so much! Barb JA (10/27/2010 8:24 p.m.)
Thanks, it has been great! Robbin (10/27/2010 5:54 p.m.)
Thank you! GinnyP (10/27/2010 2:38 p.m.)
Thank you Carol and thank you everybody. Rachel G (10/27/2010 2:26 p.m.)
- Thanks to you all WendyBri (10/27/2010 8:17 p.m.)
You're welcome, and many thanks to you too Angela L (10/27/2010 1:58 p.m.)
It was a distinct pleasure and a supreme honour KatharineW (10/27/2010 1:11 p.m.)
Thank you Carol Ramya (10/27/2010 10:59 a.m.)
I will add my thanks! Lisa Dalrymple (10/27/2010 10:59 a.m.)
It was a great pleasure.... Reeba (10/27/2010 5:56 a.m.)
Yes, indeed, thank you all Tom P2 (10/26/2010 11:23 p.m.)
- Thank you... Isabelle M (10/27/2010 3:40 p.m.)
You're Welcome and... BarbaraB (10/26/2010 10:32 p.m.)
Thank You Carol Patricia AA (10/26/2010 10:27 p.m.)
Thank you, Carol! Karen G (10/26/2010 10:10 p.m.)
- Some encouragement for you, Carol.... jeffrey (10/26/2010 11:03 p.m.)

The Final Limerick Vote! Carol (10/26/2010 9:13 p.m.)

In tribute to our hostess, the participants, and our poets KatharineW (10/27/2010 1:19 p.m.)

Fanny: Gratitude, humility & other ambiguities. Rachel G (10/26/2010 6:11 p.m.)

Scramble to self assurance Barb JA (10/27/2010 10:34 a.m.)
A whole lot of reflection going on; NA-isms; oppressors Tom P2 (10/26/2010 8:22 p.m.)
- Thank you both. Rachel G (10/27/2010 2:01 p.m.)

MP surprises to a first-time reader (very LONG – sorry!) Cathy Allen (10/25/2010 6:17 p.m.)

Don't apologize - and I agree Angela L (10/27/2010 2:21 p.m.)
Conclusions from the things that surprised me (shorter!) Cathy Allen (10/27/2010 12:34 p.m.)
I loved your post Carol (10/26/2010 9:19 p.m.)
don't apologize Lisa Dalrymple (10/26/2010 1:31 p.m.)
- Good points all, Cathy Allen GinnyP (10/26/2010 2:56 p.m.)
A surprise every time Barb JA (10/26/2010 10:31 a.m.)
This makes the... Reeba (10/26/2010 6:16 a.m.)
Thank you! KatharineW (10/25/2010 8:24 p.m.)

Is it OVER already ?? jeffrey (10/25/2010 4:51 p.m.)

Thank you Carol, also [nfm] Tarn (10/26/2010 2:27 p.m.)
What he said . . . NFM KatharineW (10/25/2010 8:26 p.m.)

Susan Ramya (10/25/2010 4:03 p.m.)

Oh yes...everyone will benefit here.... jeffrey (10/25/2010 4:24 p.m.)
- Interesting thought WendyBri (10/26/2010 2:04 p.m.)

The Final Limerick Contest Carol (10/25/2010 1:12 a.m.)

If you got 'em, watch 'em. Carol (10/24/2010 9:12 p.m.)

Inspired! Lou C (10/26/2010 7:10 a.m.)
My impressions halfway through MP1 GinnyP (10/25/2010 10:36 p.m.)
- Now that I've finished, GinnyP (10/26/2010 3:10 p.m.)
MP2 - a travesty. Rachel G (10/25/2010 9:42 p.m.)
- Are any MP2-viewers undecided about it? Tom P2 (10/25/2010 11:30 p.m.)
  - Yes. Isabelle M (10/27/2010 3:51 p.m.)
  - I did say.... Rachel G (10/26/2010 6:36 a.m.)
    - It depends on what you value most in novels and adaptations Tom P2 (10/26/2010 3:58 p.m.)
      - Narrator Barb JA (10/27/2010 8:14 p.m.)
      - LOL! Rachel G (10/26/2010 5:35 p.m.)
I don't remember the ID code, but... Mary Skater (10/25/2010 3:52 p.m.)
- That would be ... Reeba (10/25/2010 7:04 p.m.)
I don't have many things to say, except... Felicity (10/25/2010 5:17 a.m.)
- Did you mean MP1? Reeba (10/25/2010 7:01 p.m.)
  - My God. Of course I did. Felicity (10/26/2010 2:47 a.m.)
- MP Lisa Dalrymple (10/25/2010 12:08 p.m.)
  - Brilliant! WendyBri (10/25/2010 12:13 p.m.)
Two blink-and-you-miss-them details in MP2 Tom P2 (10/24/2010 10:57 p.m.)

Week 6 Limerick Winner Carol (10/24/2010 8:49 p.m.)

The consequences of Henry's actions Ramya (10/24/2010 8:15 a.m.)

Julia and Tom Ramya (10/25/2010 3:46 p.m.)
More Reordered Folk Robbin (10/24/2010 9:00 p.m.)
- ;) nfm Frances G (10/26/2010 12:48 a.m.)
- Just noticed something Lisa Dalrymple (10/25/2010 12:44 p.m.)
Julia elopes with Yates Frances G (10/24/2010 8:58 p.m.)
- Psych! (:D) nfm Robbin (10/24/2010 9:04 p.m.)

Mary’s Three Friends Robbin (10/23/2010 6:54 p.m.)

Your Chapter 43 reference GinnyP (10/24/2010 5:33 p.m.)
- Fanny & Henry Robbin (10/27/2010 8:06 p.m.)
Janet as Fanny's cautionary tale GinnyP (10/24/2010 5:13 p.m.)
- Security for Matrimonial Comfort Robbin (10/27/2010 7:46 p.m.)
  - A very nice young man in the Blues. Rachel G (10/28/2010 3:27 a.m.)

Could it be that Mary is trying to save Henry? Angela L (10/23/2010 12:01 p.m.)

Mary Henry Maria Bridget D (10/23/2010 4:41 p.m.)
From Chapter 48 –- The Double Standard . . . KatharineW (10/23/2010 1:37 p.m.)
- I agree with you both Angela L (10/24/2010 7:24 a.m.)

Limericks, Week 6 Carol (10/22/2010 9:57 p.m.)

It was the detection, not the offence Angela L (10/22/2010 5:15 p.m.)

Almost, but not quite WendyBri (10/22/2010 7:28 p.m.)
- Mary Bridget D (10/23/2010 5:11 a.m.)
  - I don't think Mary is cruel. Rachel G (10/23/2010 6:01 p.m.)
    - Moderation Itself Robbin (10/23/2010 8:14 p.m.)
      - A problem of definition   Rachel G (10/24/2010 10:03 a.m.)
        
        Shades of Cruelty   Robbin (10/24/2010 8:19 p.m.)
        
        Cruel.   Rachel G (10/25/2010 5:19 a.m.)
      - Interesting idea - Mary's conniving efforts   Angela L (10/24/2010 7:45 a.m.)
        
        Intent & Karma   Robbin (10/24/2010 8:16 p.m.)
        
        Haha! Evil Mr. Norris!! nfm   Karen G (10/24/2010 9:24 p.m.)
      - Mary cruel Bridget D (10/24/2010 2:48 a.m.)
        
        Fair Game for Sport Robbin (10/24/2010 7:56 p.m.)
  - That's true, although Angela L (10/23/2010 11:29 a.m.)
    - Mary and Edmund Bridget D (10/23/2010 3:20 p.m.)
    - I'd be curious to know... WendyBri (10/23/2010 12:55 p.m.)
      - Mary's future Bridget D (10/24/2010 4:49 a.m.)
        
        The future WendyBri (10/24/2010 8:25 a.m.)
      - Me, too. GinnyP (10/23/2010 4:55 p.m.)

Jane Austen, Fanny Price, and Mansfield Park KatharineW (10/22/2010 12:36 p.m.)

I agree with AngelaL, thank you for a thoughtful posting Cathy Allen (10/25/2010 1:33 p.m.)
Thank you for the well thought out posting Angela L (10/22/2010 4:07 p.m.)
- Sorry if I was not clear KatharineW (10/23/2010 5:07 a.m.)
  - Thanks for the clarification Angela L (10/23/2010 10:07 a.m.)
    - And thank you KatharineW (10/23/2010 1:45 p.m.)
  - Edward Knight Bridget D (10/23/2010 5:15 a.m.)
Edward Knight Bridget D (10/22/2010 2:00 p.m.)
- 21st sense and sensibilities KatharineW (10/23/2010 5:38 a.m.)
- Thank you for clarifying Mr. Nokes's guesstimates KatharineW (10/22/2010 6:18 p.m.)
  - Fanny and hte Austens Bridget D (10/23/2010 3:35 a.m.)

The might-have-been marriages Mary Skater (10/22/2010 8:41 a.m.)

Dismal for both couples. Rachel G (10/22/2010 6:52 p.m.)
- Rachel, you're right... Mary Skater (10/23/2010 3:37 a.m.)

If Fanny had married Henry this wouldn't have happened? Angela L (10/21/2010 2:11 p.m.)

I've been thinking on this too. WendyBri (10/21/2010 7:01 p.m.)
- Congratulations! Angela L (10/22/2010 4:31 p.m.)
- Hi Wendy Myretta (10/22/2010 11:13 a.m.)
  - I should be... WendyBri (10/23/2010 1:05 p.m.)
- Congratulations WendyBri! nfm Rachel G (10/21/2010 7:44 p.m.)
  - Thanks. :o) (nfm) WendyBri (10/22/2010 8:28 a.m.)
I will try to be a unbiased as possible . . . KatharineW (10/21/2010 2:59 p.m.)
Mary and Mrs. Norris Barb JA (10/21/2010 2:54 p.m.)
- Possibly Maria as well Tarn (10/22/2010 8:05 a.m.)
  - only a loss to Henry Karen G (10/23/2010 10:37 a.m.)
    - Fanny and Maria Bridget D (10/23/2010 3:38 p.m.)
      - Does Fanny feel a loss? Karen G (10/23/2010 10:29 p.m.)
  - Maria's motives. Rachel G (10/22/2010 9:55 a.m.)
Maybe he wouldn't have eloped; but it doesn't mean Graciela (10/21/2010 2:51 p.m.)
- Indeed; a few more quotes Tom P2 (10/21/2010 6:01 p.m.)
  - I see little hope for Henry. Rachel G (10/21/2010 7:41 p.m.)
    - Fanny and Henry happy Bridget D (10/23/2010 8:31 a.m.)
      - I think Henry and Fanny's fate had they married...   Karen G (10/23/2010 11:13 a.m.)
        
        Fanny dying young?   Bridget D (10/23/2010 3:28 p.m.)
        
        I did not list those not happy   Karen G (10/23/2010 10:46 p.m.)
        
        Fanny and Lady B and Jane   Bridget D (10/24/2010 2:51 a.m.)
        
        Henry   Lisa Dalrymple (10/25/2010 12:20 p.m.)
        
        exuberance   Karen G (10/25/2010 1:30 p.m.)
    - Dangerous liaisons Mia I. (10/22/2010 10:08 a.m.)
- I believe you're right Angela L (10/21/2010 3:05 p.m.)
  - I assume that you wanted to reply to Barb JA (nfm) Graciela (10/21/2010 4:30 p.m.)
    - Yes, you're right - put my message in the wrong place Angela L (10/22/2010 2:34 a.m.)
  - Sorry, I meant Mary and Mrs. Norris... Angela L (10/21/2010 3:15 p.m.)

Some Silly Stuff Lisa Dalrymple (10/21/2010 12:28 p.m.)

Could you imagine Mrs. Norris as Janet Weiss? nfm KatharineW (10/21/2010 3:17 p.m.)
I love silly analogies Angela L (10/21/2010 1:41 p.m.)
- Hee hee! (nfm) WendyBri (10/21/2010 6:48 p.m.)

How we'll wrap up Carol (10/21/2010 1:14 a.m.)

Yay! Ramya (10/21/2010 9:43 a.m.)
Request for clarification. Rachel G (10/21/2010 3:50 a.m.)
- We'll be here! Carol (10/21/2010 1:39 p.m.)
  - Thanks - Glad of the extra week. nfm Rachel G (10/22/2010 5:22 a.m.)
- I was waiting for the read to reach chapter the last . . . KatharineW (10/21/2010 9:46 a.m.)
  - Another request for clarification Angela L (10/21/2010 1:39 p.m.)
    - The MP numbers Carol (10/21/2010 1:46 p.m.)
      - Thanks!   Angela L (10/21/2010 2:13 p.m.)
        
        MP1   Carol (10/21/2010 2:21 p.m.)
        
        MP1 is available in its entirety   KatharineW (10/21/2010 2:36 p.m.)
        
        MP1 is also available   GinnyP (10/23/2010 4:16 p.m.)
        
        Wow   Angela L (10/21/2010 2:55 p.m.)
        
        Thanks again!   Angela L (10/21/2010 2:27 p.m.)
        
        Need DVDs   WendyBri (10/21/2010 6:45 p.m.)

Predictions Tom P2 (10/18/2010 10:15 p.m.)

A Mrs. Norrisism Barb JA (10/21/2010 8:59 a.m.)
Another prediction. Rachel G (10/19/2010 8:47 p.m.)
- Lol truly! Felicity (10/21/2010 9:59 a.m.)

Henry's first meeting with Mrs. Maria Rushworth Ramya (10/18/2010 12:40 p.m.)

Henry’s Expectations Robbin (10/23/2010 6:05 p.m.)
Just as I always suspected Angela L (10/18/2010 5:15 p.m.)
- I think Henry did love Fanny Nina RG (10/19/2010 12:27 p.m.)
  - I think so, too - but 'he could not help it'? Lisa Dalrymple (10/20/2010 8:09 a.m.)
    - Prior GR discussion of why "he could not help it" Louise H (10/20/2010 10:06 a.m.)
      - thanks! Lisa Dalrymple (10/20/2010 10:31 a.m.)
- Henry a hopeless "gamer" jeffrey (10/19/2010 8:48 a.m.)
  - Villainous Admiral WendyBri (10/19/2010 10:41 a.m.)

Are We Suppose To Like Fanny?: A Journey BarbaraB (10/18/2010 2:50 a.m.)

Just back from out of town and... BarbaraB (10/25/2010 2:29 p.m.)
Understanding Fanny LauraMarie (10/22/2010 4:47 a.m.)
Fanny's humility Barb JA (10/21/2010 11:19 a.m.)
great post - and redemptive power of Fanny? Karen G (10/19/2010 11:25 p.m.)
- Right motive Barb JA (10/22/2010 8:28 a.m.)
  - Nice to read the opinions again Ramya (10/23/2010 8:04 p.m.)
  - Thanks for posting! Karen G (10/23/2010 2:54 p.m.)
Yes, I like Fanny very much, and I like your posting, too! Cathy Allen (10/19/2010 6:10 p.m.)
This post deserves another comment (spoiler?) jeffrey (10/18/2010 2:08 p.m.)
Excellent post! Ramya (10/18/2010 12:21 p.m.)
Wonderful Robbin (10/18/2010 11:49 a.m.)
Thank you KatharineW (10/18/2010 10:02 a.m.)
- Print it and enclose it with my copy of MP --Great idea! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/19/2010 5:12 p.m.)
- Wow Angela L (10/18/2010 4:51 p.m.)
I don't like Fanny, I just LOVE her... jeffrey (10/18/2010 9:06 a.m.)
- I agree, and KNOW people like this -- thanks, Jeffrey! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/19/2010 5:16 p.m.)
I Agree Patricia AA (10/18/2010 8:29 a.m.)

Week 5 Limerick winner! Carol (10/17/2010 12:42 p.m.)

Yippeee! KatharineW (10/17/2010 3:11 p.m.)
- It's always the same address: Carol (10/17/2010 7:02 p.m.)
  - Oops! nfm KatharineW (10/17/2010 11:15 p.m.)

Fanny gets mean for a moment Robbin (10/17/2010 4:09 a.m.)

It is at this point in the novel when . . . KatharineW (10/17/2010 3:23 p.m.)
- Mary. Rachel G (10/18/2010 1:20 p.m.)
  - I was typing with my tongue lodged firmly in my cheek KatharineW (10/18/2010 2:19 p.m.)
    - Ah! Rachel G (10/18/2010 5:21 p.m.)
      - You are a woman of spirit and of substance KatharineW (10/18/2010 5:48 p.m.)
        
        Vent as much as you chuse.... Rachel G (10/18/2010 7:30 p.m.)
- Agree Barb JA (10/18/2010 10:37 a.m.)
  - Oh, by the way . . . KatharineW (10/18/2010 11:04 a.m.)
    - You don't say!! nfm Carol (10/18/2010 4:34 p.m.)
That "fix, commit, contemn yourself"... Felicity (10/17/2010 2:20 p.m.)
- Sensibility Robbin (10/17/2010 10:23 p.m.)
  - Ironic - I thought Felicity meant Catherine Morland! nfm Stephanie (10/18/2010 2:54 p.m.)
Fanny's reaction. Reeba (10/17/2010 4:53 a.m.)

A Child of Good Luck Robbin (10/17/2010 3:37 a.m.)

Mary callous Bridget D (10/17/2010 5:17 a.m.)
- Mary misreading Fanny. Rachel G (10/17/2010 6:27 a.m.)
  - Would it work better if Mary had a one-size-fits-all attitude? Tom P2 (10/17/2010 7:32 p.m.)
  - In the Box Kind of Gal Robbin (10/17/2010 3:47 p.m.)
  - But there is a precedent :-) Ramya (10/17/2010 7:00 a.m.)
    - Resurgence of Core Values Robbin (10/17/2010 2:00 p.m.)
    - Mary's relapse. Rachel G (10/17/2010 1:14 p.m.)
    - And more Barb JA (10/17/2010 12:29 p.m.)
  - Fanny Mary and Austen Bridget D (10/17/2010 6:56 a.m.)
    - to be ashamed of either [Mary's] feelings or [Fanny's] Stephanie (10/18/2010 3:16 p.m.)
      - Mary drunk Angela L (10/18/2010 4:12 p.m.)
        
        Mary Bridget D (10/21/2010 2:12 p.m.)
Mercurial Tom P2 (10/17/2010 4:29 a.m.)
- I wasn't so surpised Angela L (10/17/2010 6:44 a.m.)
  - Callousness & Lack of Empathy Robbin (10/17/2010 4:40 p.m.)

Fanny as Conscience Ramya (10/16/2010 11:57 a.m.)

Interesting Angela L (10/16/2010 1:27 p.m.)
- Conscience Bridget D (10/17/2010 3:19 a.m.)
  - Fanny spells it out in ch42 Tom P2 (10/17/2010 3:56 a.m.)

Henry's Portsmouth visit Ramya (10/16/2010 11:42 a.m.)

Strictly speaking Carol (10/16/2010 12:54 p.m.)
- Gosh! I am so sorry! Ramya (10/16/2010 3:55 p.m.)
How true Angela L (10/16/2010 12:28 p.m.)

Quite a letter from Mary in Chapter 40 Angela L (10/15/2010 3:57 p.m.)

A Degrading Curiosity Robbin (10/17/2010 2:18 a.m.)
Re. Thornton Lacey. Rachel G (10/16/2010 4:16 a.m.)
- Not mind reading, just listening Barb JA (10/16/2010 8:56 a.m.)
  - You are absolutely right! Rachel G (10/16/2010 10:26 a.m.)
    - A mind darkened Barb JA (10/16/2010 11:03 a.m.)
Who does she think she is? The narrator? :-) Tom P2 (10/16/2010 2:17 a.m.)
- Vivid. Rachel G (10/16/2010 3:46 a.m.)
Just goes to show.. Carol (10/15/2010 10:59 p.m.)
Us vs. Them Ramya (10/15/2010 10:01 p.m.)
- Two-faced Barb JA (10/16/2010 8:34 a.m.)
  - Us vs. Them constantly changing Angela L (10/16/2010 12:20 p.m.)
    - Mary and freinds Bridget D (10/17/2010 3:24 a.m.)
      - Yes, you're right about Fanny   Angela L (10/17/2010 7:39 a.m.)
        
        Insincere friendship   Barb JA (10/17/2010 11:20 a.m.)
        
        If Fanny echoes Elinor, then Mary definitely echoes Lucy   Tom P2 (10/17/2010 6:36 p.m.)

Week 5 Limericks Carol (10/15/2010 12:32 a.m.)

An interesting MP paper from JASNA Cathy Allen (10/14/2010 4:35 p.m.)

Thanks for the link Barb JA (10/20/2010 8:32 a.m.)
Thank you! Rachel G (10/14/2010 6:54 p.m.)
- I had also wondered about the harp! Thanks! nfm Lisa Dalrymple (10/15/2010 12:09 p.m.)
- So true Erica (10/14/2010 11:39 p.m.)

Ch. 34: Henry reads Isabelle M (10/14/2010 3:03 p.m.)

Fake, Fake! Barb JA (10/16/2010 10:15 a.m.)
- More humour, or foreshadowing Isabelle M (10/19/2010 3:06 p.m.)
  - Thanks all Barb JA (10/21/2010 7:32 a.m.)
- My stab at finishing the sentence Louise H (10/18/2010 10:27 p.m.)
- so good as to read the part Stephanie (10/18/2010 9:49 p.m.)
Yes, it was very annoying Lisa Dalrymple (10/15/2010 8:31 a.m.)
- That sort of persistance Karen G (10/20/2010 12:45 p.m.)
I Did Not Care For This Either BarbaraB (10/14/2010 6:34 p.m.)
- Henry showing a complete lack of understanding.... jeffrey (10/15/2010 8:30 a.m.)

An observation Lisa Dalrymple (10/14/2010 11:42 a.m.)

Lady B / Mrs N. Rachel G (10/14/2010 4:44 p.m.)
Well... Felicity (10/14/2010 11:52 a.m.)
- True, however.. Lisa Dalrymple (10/14/2010 11:55 a.m.)
  - I don't know, perhaps... Felicity (10/14/2010 12:24 p.m.)
    - Good observations... jeffrey (10/15/2010 12:25 p.m.)
      - I'm thinking that only a steam-powered   KatharineW (10/15/2010 1:04 p.m.)
        
        I must respectfully disagree   Erica (10/15/2010 5:17 p.m.)
        
        Not to mention be in more keeping with the period nfm   KatharineW (10/18/2010 1:24 p.m.)

Chap. 39- Packs a punch! Ramya (10/13/2010 2:57 p.m.)

...with a bit of comic relief from ch38 to help us through Tom P2 (10/13/2010 7:12 p.m.)
- Perhaps we should ask one other person just to be sure ;-) nfm Ramya (10/13/2010 10:48 p.m.)
And the innate goodness of the Price children among it. jeffrey (10/13/2010 4:08 p.m.)
- 'That age of feeling and reason' = 10? Tom P2 (10/13/2010 7:58 p.m.)
  - boys of 10 Bridget D (10/16/2010 8:09 a.m.)
I read this chapter and cringe KatharineW (10/13/2010 3:27 p.m.)
- What a coincidence Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 4:23 p.m.)
- Cringe-inducing indeed! Ramya (10/13/2010 4:17 p.m.)
  - Price home Bridget D (10/15/2010 5:44 a.m.)
    - Politeness and good behavior Ramya (10/16/2010 11:13 a.m.)
      - Fanny's selective memory.   Rachel G (10/16/2010 2:01 p.m.)
        
        Fanny and home   Bridget D (10/17/2010 2:28 a.m.)
        
        Selective Memory   Ramya (10/17/2010 7:27 a.m.)
        
        Lady B Mrs N and Mrs Price   Bridget D (10/18/2010 9:21 a.m.)
        
        Throughout the novel   Ramya (10/18/2010 12:01 p.m.)
        
        Mrs Norris and lady B   Bridget D (10/21/2010 3:00 p.m.)
        
        I agree, poverty is not an excuse   Erica (10/17/2010 1:02 p.m.)
  - Perhaps "immoral" is a little strong but . . . KatharineW (10/13/2010 9:21 p.m.)
    - And yet it happens Lisa Dalrymple (10/14/2010 8:48 a.m.)
    - Immoral Ramya (10/13/2010 10:46 p.m.)
      - Immoral Bridget D (10/16/2010 8:14 a.m.)
        
        Agreed! Mrs. Norris does tend to rise above the crowd! :-) nfm Ramya (10/16/2010 10:59 a.m.)
  - And speaking of Susan, she's a more manageable project than Henry Tom P2 (10/13/2010 8:13 p.m.)
- Weak woman Angela L (10/13/2010 3:42 p.m.)
  - It may be worth remembering... Mary Skater (10/14/2010 3:58 p.m.)
  - She may not Erica (10/13/2010 8:18 p.m.)
    - The worst aspects WendyBri (10/14/2010 1:01 p.m.)

LOL moment Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 12:14 p.m.)

Musings Barb JA (10/15/2010 6:24 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas' self-image. Rachel G (10/15/2010 6:52 a.m.)
  - Respectable stamp Barb JA (10/15/2010 7:38 a.m.)
    - Interesting! Lisa Dalrymple (10/15/2010 8:28 a.m.)

A different view of Henry - a challenge. Rachel G (10/12/2010 2:47 p.m.)

What's black & white & gray all over? why...Henry! (NFM) jeffrey (10/13/2010 10:22 a.m.)
Contrasts Barb JA (10/13/2010 9:42 a.m.)
- No tomatoes. Rachel G (10/13/2010 3:44 p.m.)
  - William's promotion Barb JA (10/14/2010 9:25 a.m.)
    - True Spirit of Generosity Robbin (10/16/2010 8:15 p.m.)
      - Purchasing her good opinion   Barb JA (10/17/2010 9:53 a.m.)
        
        Henry’s Methods   Robbin (10/17/2010 9:38 p.m.)
        
        Obtaining her affection   Barb JA (10/18/2010 10:24 a.m.)
        
        Hope, Vanity & Selective Insensibility   Robbin (10/19/2010 12:49 p.m.)
        
        Erasing   Barb JA (10/20/2010 6:50 a.m.)
        
        History Repeats Itself   Robbin (10/22/2010 12:21 p.m.)
        
        'First knowledge' etiquette   Tom P2 (10/22/2010 6:23 p.m.)
        
        Ulterior Motives   Robbin (10/23/2010 6:02 p.m.)
        
        Correction, talk with Mary ch. 30, not 31. nfm   Barb JA (10/17/2010 10:23 a.m.)
      - It'd be more convincing if it were more general   Tom P2 (10/16/2010 9:19 p.m.)
        
        Yes, that is a good point   Robbin (10/17/2010 1:10 a.m.)
        
        Disinterested   Bridget D (10/17/2010 6:23 a.m.)
        
        Interest that does not Disgrace   Robbin (10/17/2010 5:17 p.m.)
        
        Henry's disinterest   Bridget D (10/18/2010 9:35 a.m.)
    - MP as Political Satire - First Lord of the Admiralty Tarn (10/15/2010 10:10 a.m.)
      - His Majesty's Service GinnyP (10/21/2010 5:00 p.m.)
        
        New to Pemberley? Myretta (10/21/2010 7:22 p.m.)
      - Wonderful! Robbin (10/17/2010 12:55 a.m.)
      - Secretary to the First Lord Barb JA (10/16/2010 9:37 a.m.)
      - Thank you, Tarn Carol (10/15/2010 11:25 p.m.)
      - Great stuff! Rachel G (10/15/2010 5:26 p.m.)
      - Thanks! Very illuminating. *nfm* Lisa Dalrymple (10/15/2010 3:38 p.m.)
    - Okay - a merit mark for the promotion! Rachel G (10/14/2010 10:29 a.m.)
      - I have a vast dislike to puppies   Barb JA (10/15/2010 7:11 a.m.)
        
        Henry's motives re. William's promotion.   Rachel G (10/15/2010 12:00 p.m.)
        
        Thanks for finding this additional info. nfm   Barb JA (10/16/2010 9:40 a.m.)
Thank Jane Austen! Thank Jane Austen! KatharineW (10/12/2010 5:29 p.m.)
- Grey tones Angela L (10/13/2010 3:16 p.m.)
- I agree about Henry Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 12:00 p.m.)

Other things Fanny had never done before? Cathy Allen (10/12/2010 1:54 p.m.)

Two more "Never done befores" at the end of 40 Cathy Allen (10/14/2010 10:53 a.m.)
A few Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 12:45 p.m.)
Yes, but what else did she NOT experience, out or not? (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/13/2010 12:22 p.m.)
She didn't do those things because she wasn't "out", Graciela (10/12/2010 2:22 p.m.)
- Portsmouth outings Bridget D (10/15/2010 5:14 a.m.)
- She didn't dine out... Mary Skater (10/12/2010 4:35 p.m.)
- Query... WendyBri (10/12/2010 2:35 p.m.)
  - Austen and Henry Austen Bridget D (10/15/2010 6:39 a.m.)

And I will tell you what Erica (10/12/2010 1:11 p.m.)

I wonder what type of broomstick she rides? (cackle) NFM jeffrey (10/13/2010 10:31 a.m.)
- A Nimbus 2000 Erica (10/13/2010 8:24 p.m.)
  - And she knows exactly what he paid for it, too. *nfm* Lisa Dalrymple (10/14/2010 8:51 a.m.)
    - The pole was made from a felled Moor Park nfm KatharineW (10/14/2010 11:25 a.m.)
      - You all crack me up! nfm Carol (10/14/2010 6:58 p.m.)
Norris:- Me, me, me, me, me!! Rachel G (10/12/2010 2:09 p.m.)
- Yes Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 11:42 a.m.)
  - Great observation! Angela L (10/13/2010 1:35 p.m.)
    - People are People Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 4:15 p.m.)

William and Fanny growing old together in a little cottage? Tom P2 (10/12/2010 4:19 a.m.)

William's dream of a cottage. Rachel G (10/12/2010 5:33 a.m.)
- William's dream for Fanny is EXCEPTIONALLY sweet, IMO Cathy Allen (10/12/2010 1:40 p.m.)
  - And he might be experiencing typical fear WendyBri (10/12/2010 2:39 p.m.)

Ch.35 - Edmund persuading Fanny. Rachel G (10/11/2010 2:22 p.m.)

I think it is the WAY she said it Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 12:05 p.m.)
- astonishing Edmund Karen G (10/13/2010 10:58 p.m.)
- Teenage drama queen. Rachel G (10/13/2010 6:04 p.m.)
  - Fanny seldom (if ever) acts this way Carol (10/13/2010 7:42 p.m.)
- That's how I took it too! Ramya (10/13/2010 12:32 p.m.)
  - Then we're agreed Erica (10/13/2010 8:27 p.m.)
  - Absolutely! nfm Lisa Dalrymple (10/13/2010 4:25 p.m.)
Gratitude, my foot Erica (10/12/2010 12:40 p.m.)
I agree completely KatharineW (10/11/2010 3:02 p.m.)

Dearest, sweetest Fanny Ramya (10/10/2010 10:59 p.m.)

Not to mention the serious implications of the gift KatharineW (10/11/2010 1:38 a.m.)
- Since we are bashing Henry, I would like to add this... Felicity (10/11/2010 5:18 a.m.)
  - Fanny and Sir Thomas Bridget D (10/12/2010 2:32 a.m.)
    - Miserly & Indifferent Robbin (10/12/2010 2:06 p.m.)
    - Since two people made the same comment... Felicity (10/12/2010 11:57 a.m.)
  - Well said, Felicity Cathy Allen (10/11/2010 4:42 p.m.)
    - Mouse to be Ignored Robbin (10/11/2010 6:48 p.m.)
      - Touche' -- you are right Cathy Allen (10/12/2010 11:44 a.m.)
  - LOL That's what Sir Thomas would think if he were Fanny Mia I. (10/11/2010 2:19 p.m.)
    - How do you know Robbin (10/11/2010 3:07 p.m.)
  - Henry gives me the creeps WendyBri (10/11/2010 11:14 a.m.)
    - Telling the Aunts Robbin (10/11/2010 4:31 p.m.)
      - Point taken... WendyBri (10/12/2010 2:30 p.m.)
    - Sir Thomas is generally a good man... Felicity (10/11/2010 2:01 p.m.)
      - Suspecting Henry   Robbin (10/11/2010 5:48 p.m.)
        
        What to reply to first...   Felicity (10/12/2010 11:52 a.m.)
        
        more warmth than delicacy   Stephanie (10/15/2010 11:23 a.m.)
        
        Good point, glad to see you! (:D) nfm   Robbin (10/16/2010 8:51 p.m.)

Week 4 Limerick winner! Carol (10/10/2010 10:53 p.m.)

It's way feckless! Congratulations to the winner! :-) nfm Ramya (10/13/2010 10:57 p.m.)

A Mind led Astray & Bewildered Robbin (10/10/2010 12:42 a.m.)

His sturdy spirit. Rachel G (10/10/2010 6:56 p.m.)
- I prefer to stay open to this possibility too Tom P2 (10/10/2010 10:51 p.m.)
Jane Austen writes this so succinctly Karen G (10/10/2010 8:47 a.m.)
- The Tao of Fanny Robbin (10/11/2010 12:25 a.m.)
- But Fanny is not impartial here. Rachel G (10/10/2010 11:01 a.m.)
  - Older sages vs. Experience & impartiality Barb JA (10/10/2010 3:05 p.m.)
    - On the other hand... Isabelle M (10/10/2010 4:12 p.m.)
      - Mary Bridget D (10/12/2010 2:38 a.m.)
I missed this indicator on previous reads Janey (10/10/2010 3:04 a.m.)

Comfort of Communication Robbin (10/10/2010 12:31 a.m.)

Unrepulsable Robbin (10/10/2010 12:20 a.m.)

This word caught my attention this time around too. BarbaraB (10/11/2010 12:09 a.m.)
Mr Optimism just doesn't allow for possible final rejection. nfm Tom P2 (10/10/2010 11:06 p.m.)

Fanny's power Janey (10/8/2010 10:55 p.m.)

Power with or Power over . . . KatharineW (10/9/2010 7:47 a.m.)
- You've made a good point about Janey (10/9/2010 2:10 p.m.)
  - By the way, the film you cited is one of my favourites KatharineW (10/9/2010 2:21 p.m.)
  - Indeed, Fanny is strong KatharineW (10/9/2010 2:17 p.m.)
- Not trying to protect Henry. Rachel G (10/9/2010 11:16 a.m.)
  - You are absolutely correct KatharineW (10/9/2010 2:15 p.m.)
    - Self preservation Barb JA (10/10/2010 1:54 p.m.)
    - I see your point of view Ramya (10/9/2010 5:02 p.m.)
      - Fanny's silence Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:33 p.m.)
        
        Thank you for reminding me . . . KatharineW (10/9/2010 6:23 p.m.)
- Well said Angela L (10/9/2010 9:43 a.m.)

Subtle changes in Fanny Barb JA (10/8/2010 10:59 a.m.)

Admiring Fanny Robbin (10/10/2010 12:55 a.m.)
Excellent points Ramya (10/9/2010 5:07 p.m.)
Heartbreak and hope in Ch 27... jeffrey (10/8/2010 2:34 p.m.)
- Thanks to the governors of our fair republic . . . KatharineW (10/8/2010 4:51 p.m.)
  - Normally... Rachel G (10/8/2010 5:05 p.m.)
Excellent points Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 11:15 a.m.)

Fanny as indirect narrator Delories (10/8/2010 10:29 a.m.)

This is wonderful Barb JA (10/8/2010 12:30 p.m.)
- I always think of a John Greenleaf Whittier . . . KatharineW (10/9/2010 7:53 a.m.)
- Interesting Angela L (10/9/2010 5:02 a.m.)

A common thread Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 8:58 a.m.)

I think it's so very complex and like a big masquerade Angela L (10/9/2010 4:33 a.m.)

Week 4 Limericks Carol (10/8/2010 2:21 a.m.)

Could it be that Henry's pride is hurt? Angela L (10/7/2010 9:48 a.m.)

The thrill of the chase. Rachel G (10/7/2010 2:12 p.m.)
Bitterness Ramya (10/7/2010 11:32 a.m.)
- Contempt for the Conquered Robbin (10/7/2010 8:48 p.m.)
- Twisted. Rachel G (10/7/2010 1:55 p.m.)

A woman of spirit. Rachel G (10/6/2010 9:34 p.m.)

A dig at Edmund Barb JA (10/7/2010 10:26 a.m.)
- Multiple meanings, & worse than ridicule. Rachel G (10/7/2010 1:11 p.m.)
  - Contempt Barb JA (10/8/2010 7:42 a.m.)
    - Mary's attitude to Religion. Rachel G (10/8/2010 3:15 p.m.)
      - Mary & Religion - modifying my view.   Rachel G (10/11/2010 5:44 p.m.)
        
        Perhaps something in-between   Ramya (10/13/2010 5:34 p.m.)
        
        religion and Mary   Bridget D (10/16/2010 7:04 a.m.)
        
        I agree with all you say, yet   Ramya (10/16/2010 10:56 a.m.)
        
        Mary as Mrs Vicar   Bridget D (10/17/2010 2:41 a.m.)
        
        Is it ordination that she calls a stain in ch45?   Tom P2 (10/17/2010 3:25 a.m.)
        
        Evil   Bridget D (10/17/2010 5:20 a.m.)
        
        Mary's religion   Bridget D (10/12/2010 3:14 a.m.)
      - Run Edmund Barb JA (10/10/2010 10:53 a.m.)
      - Mary about clergy and religion   Karen G (10/9/2010 10:52 p.m.)
        
        Dr Grant an example, but not the source.   Rachel G (10/10/2010 12:27 p.m.)
        
        Agree---Well Said nfm   BarbaraB (10/11/2010 12:20 a.m.)
        
        Great analysis! nfm   Ramya (10/10/2010 6:39 p.m.)
      - Brava, Madame! nfm KatharineW (10/9/2010 8:01 a.m.)
      - Thank you Rachel Carol (10/8/2010 10:29 p.m.)
  - It is her countenance that is so attractive Robbin (10/8/2010 12:13 a.m.)
  - What is more unjust is that Mary would have preferred Graciela (10/7/2010 1:46 p.m.)
    - Good point Barb JA (10/8/2010 9:55 a.m.)
      - Wasn't that Mary's point?   Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 11:18 a.m.)
        
        I don't know.   Barb JA (10/8/2010 11:50 a.m.)
        
        Mary   Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 12:13 p.m.)
        
        I felt that she was annoyed with Henry   Ramya (10/8/2010 12:46 p.m.)
        
        Aha - that makes sense! *nfm*   Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 5:00 p.m.)
        
        Still feeling dense   Barb JA (10/10/2010 12:05 p.m.)
        
        I think could be interpreted either way   Karen G (10/10/2010 6:52 p.m.)
        
        I don;t think so   Ramya (10/10/2010 11:04 p.m.)
        
        It is very true   Karen G (10/11/2010 7:20 p.m.)
        
        This is how I took it   Ramya (10/10/2010 6:37 p.m.)
A thorough and well-reasoned view of a . . . KatharineW (10/7/2010 9:42 a.m.)
I'm excessively diverted Angela L (10/7/2010 4:38 a.m.)

Speculation, the East Room and Chains BarbaraB (10/6/2010 7:46 p.m.)

William had wanted to buy her a gold chain too Stephanie (10/14/2010 10:15 p.m.)
I don't understand the importance of the East Room Nina RG (10/7/2010 11:48 a.m.)
- There are millenia of traditions associating EAST... Cathy Allen (10/8/2010 4:09 p.m.)
  - Fanny's sanctuary. Rachel G (10/8/2010 6:35 p.m.)
    - Fanny and the East room Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:51 a.m.)
- This may be a s-t-r-e-t-c-h but.... jeffrey (10/7/2010 12:28 p.m.)
  - Not to mention . . . KatharineW (10/7/2010 3:55 p.m.)
Chains... WendyBri (10/7/2010 11:24 a.m.)
More on the chain from Mary/Henry Christopher (10/6/2010 8:03 p.m.)
- Very interesting Angela L (10/7/2010 4:29 a.m.)
  - An Apparent Joy Robbin (10/7/2010 11:58 p.m.)
  - Good and evil Angela L (10/7/2010 10:40 a.m.)
  - Mary, even more than Henry, is peculiarly sinister (?) jeffrey (10/7/2010 9:46 a.m.)
    - Good and evil Angela L (10/7/2010 10:48 a.m.)

The necklaces, William's cross and symbolism Angela L (10/6/2010 6:00 a.m.)

Fanny's Cross. Rachel G (10/6/2010 7:57 a.m.)
- Thank you for yet another instance . . . KatharineW (10/6/2010 11:37 a.m.)
  - Also, Charles Austen is considered to be the model Graciela (10/7/2010 2:21 p.m.)
  - carrying the cross Ra (10/6/2010 4:37 p.m.)
    - Yes-yes! So hard to elaborate on this without spoilers... jeffrey (10/7/2010 9:26 a.m.)
    - Wow Angela L (10/7/2010 4:02 a.m.)
      - My Goodness Lisa Dalrymple (10/8/2010 11:30 a.m.)

A funny moment Isabelle M (10/5/2010 2:21 p.m.)

What a telling remark by Edmund... jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:43 p.m.)
There's none so blind... Rachel G (10/5/2010 5:13 p.m.)

Gotta love Lady B! :) Nina RG (10/5/2010 1:05 p.m.)

I also laughed when... Lisa Dalrymple (10/5/2010 2:35 p.m.)
- And the card party! jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:39 p.m.)
  - Entertaining game Barb JA (10/6/2010 8:56 a.m.)

Some things never change! Rachel G (10/5/2010 2:54 a.m.)

Usual Luck Stephanie (10/5/2010 1:42 p.m.)
YES. Its a testerone-laced challenge to the male ego! (NFM) jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:26 a.m.)
Told him it was Thornton Lacey Barb JA (10/5/2010 6:22 a.m.)
- Equal opportunity Mia I. (10/5/2010 6:14 p.m.)
- And you must wonder WendyBri (10/5/2010 10:36 a.m.)
"I never do wrong without gaining by it." DeborahAnnebelle (10/5/2010 5:53 a.m.)

Sir Thomas goes to the East Room (ch 32) BarbaraB (10/5/2010 1:01 a.m.)

More reversals Tom P2 (10/10/2010 9:46 p.m.)
- Reversals and turning the other cheek Barb JA (10/12/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Misery, gratitude, and night sky Tom P2 (10/12/2010 5:19 p.m.)
    - Sorry, I sure misunderstood... Barb JA (10/13/2010 7:29 a.m.)
      - No problem. It's a familiar hazard of attempted succinctness. nfm Tom P2 (10/13/2010 7:07 p.m.)
- Well put! nfm Rachel G (10/11/2010 3:54 a.m.)
Henry's timing Louise H (10/6/2010 11:20 a.m.)
- Emotional blackmail. Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:18 p.m.)
  - succinctly well put-doing right things with wrong motives(NFM) jeffrey (10/7/2010 1:08 p.m.)
IMHO, It is the methods used not the end desired . . . KatharineW (10/5/2010 9:16 p.m.)
Respect & Betrayal Robbin (10/5/2010 7:15 p.m.)
Ch 32, to me, is one of Miss Austen's smaller masterpieces jeffrey (10/5/2010 9:44 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas' tirade - a less charitable view. Rachel G (10/5/2010 11:56 a.m.)
  - Sir Thomas Bridget D (10/7/2010 2:57 p.m.)
  - Sir Thomas needs a SUTH Erica (10/6/2010 10:01 p.m.)
  - Right to refuse Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:19 a.m.)
  - Fanny’s Right to say No & Independent Thought Robbin (10/5/2010 6:54 p.m.)
  - Thank you Rachel G Mia I. (10/5/2010 5:40 p.m.)
    - Thank God, this is not the end of the story! (NFM) jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:52 p.m.)
  - At this point in the story, I definitely agree with you... jeffrey (10/5/2010 1:26 p.m.)
    - Partnership? Yeah, Way to go! ;-D nfm Rachel G (10/5/2010 5:08 p.m.)
      - Don't know how to take this so.... jeffrey (10/6/2010 12:08 a.m.)
        
        I'd like.... Rachel G (10/7/2010 3:22 a.m.)
- Well said Jeffrey. Barb JA (10/5/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Observation & Misconceptions Robbin (10/5/2010 9:01 p.m.)
  - romantic delicacy was certainly not to be expected from him Stephanie (10/5/2010 1:35 p.m.)
    - Fanny's reticence Erica (10/6/2010 10:56 p.m.)
    - Fanny's secrets Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:00 a.m.)
      - Inner strength. Rachel G (10/6/2010 8:16 a.m.)
        
        Exactly so, Rachel G! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/6/2010 4:03 p.m.)
    - Delicate Health? Jane Marie (10/5/2010 4:18 p.m.)
  - Mediocrity of condition Ramya (10/5/2010 11:37 a.m.)
    - Empathy & Intentions Robbin (10/5/2010 6:39 p.m.)
      - Execution was horrible   Barb JA (10/7/2010 7:21 a.m.)
        
        I agree: absence of a dowry   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:37 a.m.)
        
        Fanny a slave   Bridget D (10/7/2010 1:53 p.m.)
    - Yes, agree with the exception of one point: jeffrey (10/5/2010 12:59 p.m.)
      - Not unsubstantiated   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:52 a.m.)
        
        Advantages of Portsmouth   Robbin (10/8/2010 1:17 a.m.)
        
        William Fanny etc   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:25 a.m.)
        
        Also   Erica (10/9/2010 11:42 a.m.)
        
        Fanny   Bridget D (10/9/2010 4:36 p.m.)
        
        Fanny dined at the Parsonage   Robbin (10/10/2010 1:46 a.m.)
        
        Not surprising   Barb JA (10/10/2010 11:36 a.m.)
        
        Fanny out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 1:59 p.m.)
        
        Fanny coming out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 2:51 a.m.)
        
        Advocating for Fanny   Robbin (10/10/2010 11:14 p.m.)
        
        Fanny nad balls   Bridget D (10/11/2010 3:03 a.m.)
        
        Bertram's finances   Erica (10/10/2010 2:53 p.m.)
        
        Dowry   Erica (10/10/2010 1:03 a.m.)
        
        Mansfield Park may be the lesser of two evils   Ramya (10/9/2010 4:54 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:30 p.m.)
        
        We know for a fact that her life at MP   Ramya (10/9/2010 6:26 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth and Mansfield   Bridget D (10/10/2010 6:12 a.m.)
        
        Very true   Erica (10/10/2010 2:55 p.m.)
      - What about Henry's part in all this   Angela L (10/6/2010 5:30 a.m.)
        
        What did Henry say?   Barb JA (10/6/2010 8:29 a.m.)
        
        She practically ran away screaming   Robbin (10/8/2010 12:08 p.m.)
        
        Proper modesty & reticence.   Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:08 p.m.)

Week 3 Limerick Results Carol (10/4/2010 4:38 p.m.)

There's something about Fanny - ch26 - chuckling through the pity Tom P2 (10/4/2010 4:08 p.m.)

Fanny's extremes of emotion Rachel G (10/4/2010 7:18 p.m.)
- Believable emotion Barb JA (10/5/2010 8:39 a.m.)
  - Well said, Barb JA Cathy Allen (10/5/2010 12:59 p.m.)
    - LOL! Barb JA (10/6/2010 8:39 a.m.)
      - Thank you...   Rachel G (10/6/2010 7:37 p.m.)
        
        Realistic and yet funny   Barb JA (10/7/2010 7:59 a.m.)
        
        You're welcome   Cathy Allen (10/6/2010 11:34 p.m.)
        
        I relate to Fanny too!   Ramya (10/7/2010 11:15 a.m.)
        
        Fanny's growth   Barb JA (10/8/2010 11:04 a.m.)
      - I do wish I had more time for this GR... Cathy Allen (10/6/2010 4:49 p.m.)
Heavenly Flight! Barb JA (10/4/2010 6:19 p.m.)
- Fanny asks for so little and desires to give so much... jeffrey (10/5/2010 10:07 a.m.)

Sir Thomas – I have something to say to you Robbin (10/4/2010 5:25 a.m.)

A better partner Ramya (10/4/2010 9:36 a.m.)
Sir Thomas DeborahAnnebelle (10/4/2010 5:57 a.m.)
- *She* doesn't want Fanny to go to the parsonage. Graciela (10/5/2010 3:20 p.m.)
- I tend to give Sir Thomas the benefit of the doubt... jeffrey (10/4/2010 11:44 a.m.)
  - Coddled rather than Throttled Robbin (10/4/2010 2:27 p.m.)
    - Sir Thomas and Lady B Bridget D (10/5/2010 1:31 a.m.)
    - Sir Thomas and Lady Bertram Erica (10/4/2010 9:39 p.m.)
    - Most excellently reasoned . . . KatharineW (10/4/2010 3:42 p.m.)
    - Sir Thomas' Ideal Woman. Rachel G (10/4/2010 2:45 p.m.)
      - Lady B's indolence   Bridget D (10/5/2010 1:36 a.m.)
        
        Long Separations   Robbin (10/5/2010 8:38 p.m.)
        
        Sir T and Lady B   BarbaraB (10/5/2010 11:34 a.m.)
        
        Perils of Captivation   Robbin (10/5/2010 8:23 p.m.)
- Seems a bit harsh Lisa Dalrymple (10/4/2010 9:04 a.m.)
  - Poor Sir Thomas KatharineW (10/4/2010 9:50 a.m.)
    - It is a possibility Lisa Dalrymple (10/4/2010 11:57 a.m.)

Week 3 Limericks Carol (10/1/2010 7:07 p.m.)

Sir Thomas - Merit stars & Musings. Rachel G (10/1/2010 4:50 p.m.)

In the realm of politics . . . KatharineW (10/2/2010 1:43 p.m.)
- Thank you, everyone for your assistance! nfm KatharineW (10/3/2010 1:49 p.m.)
- politics Bridget D (10/2/2010 3:05 p.m.)
- Politics. Rachel G (10/2/2010 3:04 p.m.)
  - fixed term Bridget D (10/2/2010 4:40 p.m.)
I only wish WendyBri (10/1/2010 7:20 p.m.)
Not really book burning, Christopher (10/1/2010 5:00 p.m.)
- What were unbound copies, anyway? kathleen (elder) (10/1/2010 6:06 p.m.)
  - Books unbound Myretta (10/2/2010 7:59 a.m.)
    - Thanks -- that explains it :-) nfm kathleen (elder) (10/2/2010 8:05 a.m.)
  - I wondered too Ramya (10/1/2010 6:21 p.m.)
    - Quickest way to get copies? Mia I. (10/2/2010 4:48 a.m.)
- Good point. nfm Rachel G (10/1/2010 5:27 p.m.)

Gotta love William Price! Rachel G (10/1/2010 7:51 a.m.)

Noisy abuse? Mia I. (10/1/2010 11:30 a.m.)
- Attention seeking... Rachel G (10/1/2010 12:47 p.m.)
I cannot help myself . . . KatharineW (10/1/2010 9:33 a.m.)
- Perhaps the slightest beginning of Sir Thomas's redemption? jeffrey (10/4/2010 9:57 a.m.)
Indeed! Ramya (10/1/2010 9:19 a.m.)
- Good point nan duval (10/2/2010 11:21 a.m.)

Mary has a Horse? Robbin (10/1/2010 2:41 a.m.)

I think it meant riding in a carriage kathleen (elder) (10/1/2010 2:42 p.m.)
- Riding Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:28 a.m.)
- Don't you remember the transportation of Mary's harp? KatharineW (10/1/2010 3:42 p.m.)
  - That's right -- forgot about the barouche. Thanks :-) nfm kathleen (elder) (10/1/2010 3:54 p.m.)
Henry's horse Barb JA (10/1/2010 5:59 a.m.)
- A Lady's Horse Robbin (10/1/2010 1:11 p.m.)
  - Mary and the horse Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:31 a.m.)
    - Not middle aged. Graciela (10/4/2010 2:19 p.m.)
  - I wonder Erica (10/1/2010 9:04 p.m.)

Fanny bites!! Rachel G (9/30/2010 5:55 p.m.)

Fanny has a backbone! WendyBri (10/1/2010 8:51 a.m.)
This is one of the reasons . . . KatharineW (9/30/2010 10:00 p.m.)
- She sure told him! Erica (9/30/2010 11:27 p.m.)
  - ..and incited him to try to seduce her :-D Mia I. (10/1/2010 2:03 a.m.)

Hairstyles? Mary Skater (9/30/2010 5:30 p.m.)

I was wondering that too WendyBri (10/1/2010 8:16 a.m.)
- Yes Ramya (10/1/2010 10:41 a.m.)
  - Hairstyle maybe "A la Titus"? Rachel G (10/1/2010 12:28 p.m.)
    - Thank you, Rachel G. Mary Skater (10/1/2010 4:08 p.m.)
      - Fanny's hair Bridget D (10/2/2010 2:40 a.m.)
        
        Short Hair Lisa Dalrymple (10/2/2010 8:31 a.m.)
    - A thousand thank-yous for this information nfm KatharineW (10/1/2010 3:47 p.m.)

Something I never noticed before Nina RG (9/30/2010 1:11 p.m.)

And Fanny as well? WendyBri (9/30/2010 2:06 p.m.)

Maria and Henry and...Mary? WendyBri (9/30/2010 11:12 a.m.)

Indefatigable rehearsers, Agatha and Frederick Barb JA (9/30/2010 7:11 p.m.)
- Wholesome Labor Robbin (10/1/2010 2:18 a.m.)
  - Right & wrong Barb JA (10/1/2010 7:47 a.m.)
    - No Fury like a Woman Scorned Robbin (10/2/2010 10:25 p.m.)
      - Anger, disappointment & hurt feelings.   Rachel G (10/3/2010 7:04 a.m.)
        
        I think that is a good modern example! nfm   Lisa Dalrymple (10/4/2010 9:06 a.m.)
        
        Revenge   Robbin (10/3/2010 5:33 p.m.)
        
        Very bad listeners   Barb JA (10/3/2010 10:07 a.m.)
        
        Mary's selfishness and unreasonableness   Erica (10/4/2010 10:18 p.m.)
        
        Quite agree.   Rachel G (10/3/2010 10:45 a.m.)
        
        The Crawford Connection   Patricia AA (10/3/2010 11:39 a.m.)
        
        Patronage   Robbin (10/3/2010 5:40 p.m.)
        
        Mary   Bridget D (10/3/2010 7:36 a.m.)
        
        JA's attitude to Mary.   Rachel G (10/3/2010 8:47 a.m.)
Mary's attitude to Henry's "games". Rachel G (9/30/2010 3:13 p.m.)
- 'He paid no compliments', and Miss Crawford's position Tom P2 (9/30/2010 4:54 p.m.)
Cruel Intentions Perhaps? Patricia AA (9/30/2010 11:37 a.m.)
- Or perhaps the original source of the film Laurel (9/30/2010 12:17 p.m.)
  - Looking forward to it! nfm Barb JA (10/2/2010 8:22 a.m.)
  - "Les Liaisons Dangereuses" predates MP Rachel G (9/30/2010 1:11 p.m.)
    - I believe that's what Laurel implied Myretta (9/30/2010 3:03 p.m.)
      - Oops - I read it the wrong way round! nfm Rachel G (9/30/2010 6:33 p.m.)
    - I'll have to check that out WendyBri (9/30/2010 2:01 p.m.)

Fanny's engaged affections Karen G (9/29/2010 1:01 p.m.)

Fanny's guarded heart. Rachel G (9/29/2010 7:33 p.m.)
- Strong hints in the jealousy Barb JA (9/30/2010 10:08 a.m.)

Ch 24 - Is Henry (dare I say it)....... Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 12:48 p.m.)

Notice that Austen says LauraMarie (9/29/2010 5:59 a.m.)
"Moral taste," not moral or ethical values KatharineW (9/28/2010 6:36 p.m.)
- Yes, now I see the difference Lisa Dalrymple (9/29/2010 4:43 p.m.)
Difficult to respond to this without *spoilers* jeffrey (9/28/2010 4:02 p.m.)
- Fanny is a challenge Mia I. (9/29/2010 8:06 a.m.)
- No spoilers requested. :-) Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 4:37 p.m.)
  - Which makes the next chapters very interesting! (nfm) WendyBri (9/29/2010 8:18 a.m.)
I can't say a whole lot Julie P. (9/28/2010 4:03 p.m.)

What was she thinking? Ramya (9/28/2010 12:40 p.m.)

Yes, what was she thinking? Karen G (9/28/2010 1:35 p.m.)
- Henry's respectability is not the key Ramya (9/29/2010 11:44 a.m.)

Lovers' Vows by The Pemberley Players Myretta (9/28/2010 11:42 a.m.)

I had forgotten about that! Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 12:28 p.m.)
- me too! Karen G (9/28/2010 1:44 p.m.)

Oh no! When did you announce this Group Read? MarianneR (9/28/2010 2:37 a.m.)

Marianne! So glad you are here. Tarn (9/28/2010 10:29 a.m.)
- Sorry, I can´t help you here :o( MarianneR (9/30/2010 2:21 a.m.)
- A German Play Ramya (9/28/2010 11:20 a.m.)
Fret not, the fun is just beginning. Join us! (NFM) jeffrey (9/28/2010 9:38 a.m.)
- ;o) Thank you. *nfm* MarianneR (9/30/2010 2:22 a.m.)
Several times and several places Myretta (9/28/2010 7:10 a.m.)
- The Group Read Site only told me MarianneR (9/30/2010 2:16 a.m.)
  - Good Luck Catching Up and a tip BarbaraB (9/30/2010 3:56 p.m.)
  - Announcements Page has been here for years nfm kathleen (elder) (9/30/2010 3:12 p.m.)
  - I hate to contradict you... Myretta (9/30/2010 8:35 a.m.)
August 5... Julie P. (9/28/2010 6:52 a.m.)
- Well, if you don´t come here regularily MarianneR (9/30/2010 2:19 a.m.)

Maria had pledged herself anew to Sotherton Karen G (9/27/2010 1:54 p.m.)

Secured her fate beyond recall Barb JA (9/28/2010 10:07 a.m.)
- But what do you do for women? Robbin (9/28/2010 10:22 p.m.)
  - Legally trapped Barb JA (9/29/2010 9:56 a.m.)
Sotherton Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 8:44 a.m.)
Maria and Rushworth Bridget D (9/28/2010 1:34 a.m.)
- London Season Robbin (9/28/2010 9:20 p.m.)
  - London Bridget D (9/29/2010 1:13 a.m.)
But why change her mind now? Laurel (9/27/2010 8:13 p.m.)
- released from "duty" Karen G (9/28/2010 1:26 p.m.)
  - Narrator or Maria? Barb JA (9/29/2010 11:29 a.m.)
    - weird logic Karen G (9/29/2010 12:42 p.m.)
      - Mary too Barb JA (9/30/2010 9:38 a.m.)
  - Injured feelings and "proud resolve". Rachel G (9/28/2010 6:23 p.m.)
    - Sympathetic View Barb JA (9/29/2010 10:51 a.m.)

An observation on Yates WendyBri (9/27/2010 12:23 p.m.)

One is enough Erica (9/27/2010 2:13 p.m.)
- That sounds reasonable... WendyBri (9/28/2010 7:55 a.m.)

Fanny’s rise in Consequence Robbin (9/27/2010 12:38 a.m.)

Sir Thomas has been thinking... WendyBri (9/27/2010 12:27 p.m.)
- I agree - he missed his family! (:D) nfm Robbin (10/1/2010 2:26 a.m.)

We respect your pheasants, sir Robbin (9/26/2010 11:11 p.m.)

Parents' responsibility. Rachel G (9/27/2010 12:51 p.m.)
- Looks can be Deceiving Robbin (9/29/2010 9:02 p.m.)
  - However, when the parent's presence Ramya (9/29/2010 10:49 p.m.)
    - Faulty not Cruel Robbin (9/30/2010 12:39 p.m.)
      - Sir Thomas   Bridget D (10/1/2010 1:22 a.m.)
        
        Mistakes do not equal Poor Intent   Robbin (10/1/2010 4:01 a.m.)
        
        Sir thomas and intentions   Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:43 a.m.)
        
        Threats & Consequences   Robbin (10/3/2010 6:58 p.m.)
        
        Financially more viable   Ramya (10/3/2010 9:17 p.m.)
        
        Giving or Selling Church Livings   Robbin (10/4/2010 5:10 a.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas the Politician   Tarn (10/15/2010 4:25 p.m.)
        
        Thanks Tarn   Robbin (10/17/2010 12:47 a.m.)
        
        Thanks again, Tarn,   Carol (10/15/2010 11:32 p.m.)
        
        Great information!   Ramya (10/15/2010 9:42 p.m.)
        
        Wow!   Rachel G (10/15/2010 5:48 p.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas and Tom   Bridget D (10/7/2010 7:14 a.m.)
        
        Then you, I and Sir Thomas agree   Robbin (10/7/2010 7:31 p.m.)
        
        Tom and Sir Thomas   Bridget D (10/10/2010 6:24 a.m.)
        
        Make it Pay or Suffer the Consequences   Robbin (10/10/2010 11:49 p.m.)
        
        Yes,   Ramya (10/4/2010 9:21 a.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris – you must assist us   Robbin (10/4/2010 3:07 p.m.)
        
        What would have been the punishment?   Patricia AA (10/3/2010 8:02 p.m.)
        
        Spunging House   Robbin (10/4/2010 5:19 a.m.)
        
        Tom and money   Erica (10/2/2010 1:39 p.m.)
        
        Tom's money   Bridget D (10/2/2010 2:57 p.m.)
        
        Tom's extravagance - horse racing & gambling?   Rachel G (10/1/2010 4:26 a.m.)
        
        Horses and racing   Robbin (10/1/2010 11:56 a.m.)
    - Harsh words? Barb JA (9/30/2010 8:46 a.m.)
      - Bleak House   Robbin (10/1/2010 12:20 a.m.)
        
        Never much laughing   Barb JA (10/1/2010 10:36 a.m.)
        
        Great analysis!   Rachel G (10/1/2010 4:10 a.m.)
        
        Sir Thomas and the children   Bridget D (10/1/2010 7:10 a.m.)
        
        Thanks and very good points! (:D) nfm   Robbin (10/1/2010 4:18 a.m.)
  - How about ch19: 'a home which shuts out noisy pleasures'? nfm Tom P2 (9/29/2010 9:54 p.m.)
    - True, yet Robbin (9/30/2010 12:56 p.m.)
    - Or ch.21, para 3 & 4. Rachel G (9/30/2010 4:59 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas Bridget D (9/29/2010 1:24 a.m.)
- nurture v. nature question Karen G (9/27/2010 1:39 p.m.)
  - Can it ever be answered? Barb JA (9/29/2010 9:25 a.m.)
  - Edmund the exception. Rachel G (9/27/2010 5:11 p.m.)
    - Edmund and Sir T Bridget D (10/1/2010 1:45 a.m.)
      - Context   Barb JA (10/1/2010 5:52 a.m.)
        
        Edmund   Bridget D (10/1/2010 7:05 a.m.)
        
        Good points   Barb JA (10/1/2010 9:57 a.m.)
        
        MP Dull   Bridget D (10/2/2010 1:49 a.m.)
    - Another similarity... Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 8:35 a.m.)
      - Agree nfm BarbaraB (9/29/2010 11:01 p.m.)
      - Well spotted! nfm Rachel G (9/28/2010 9:41 a.m.)
Sir Thomas Bridget D (9/27/2010 1:17 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas – No stranger to fault Robbin (9/27/2010 5:27 p.m.)
  - Learning to respect pheasants Mia I. (9/28/2010 5:40 a.m.)
    - Mismanagement in Education Robbin (9/29/2010 12:10 a.m.)
      - Three governesses and an aunt Mia I. (9/29/2010 8:33 a.m.)

Letters, Chapter 6 nan duval (9/26/2010 9:19 p.m.)

Saved by Sir Thomas Robbin (9/26/2010 9:16 p.m.)

No one knew Fanny's inner conscience... Karen G (9/27/2010 1:28 p.m.)

Letters, Chapter 5 nan duval (9/26/2010 9:03 p.m.)

Aggregating your messages Myretta (9/27/2010 8:15 a.m.)
- Sorry. nan duval (9/27/2010 12:12 p.m.)
  - Humor Myretta (9/27/2010 2:19 p.m.)

Letters, Chapter 4 nan duval (9/26/2010 9:02 p.m.)

Letters, Chapter 3 nan duval (9/26/2010 8:58 p.m.)

Letters, Chapter 2 nan duval (9/26/2010 8:47 p.m.)

Letters, Chapter 1 nan duval (9/26/2010 8:34 p.m.)

Sir Thomas' Return Carol (9/26/2010 7:39 p.m.)

Comedy Rachel G (9/27/2010 6:06 a.m.)
- Question regarding comedy and Sir Thomas Karen G (9/27/2010 1:20 p.m.)
  - Poking Fun at Sir Thomas BarbaraB (9/30/2010 1:45 a.m.)
    - This scene is hilarious. Patricia AA (9/30/2010 10:29 a.m.)
    - Ranting Yates Barb JA (9/30/2010 6:41 a.m.)

The Miss Bertrams’ End Game Robbin (9/26/2010 4:09 p.m.)

Interesting "play" on words, Robbin ;-) Laurel (9/27/2010 8:04 p.m.)
- Yes, exactly! Robbin (9/28/2010 8:23 p.m.)
- Yes Lisa Dalrymple (9/28/2010 8:32 a.m.)
Maria and Henry - what a pair! Rachel G (9/26/2010 8:08 p.m.)
- Henry has the Edge Robbin (9/27/2010 5:50 p.m.)
- Henry likes a challenge WendyBri (9/27/2010 11:59 a.m.)
  - Also safer Nicki (9/27/2010 3:01 p.m.)
- Whatever Henry wants . . . KatharineW (9/27/2010 9:27 a.m.)

Selfish Triumph Robbin (9/26/2010 3:05 p.m.)

Everybody has trouble saying no, or taking a stand Tom P2 (9/27/2010 6:15 p.m.)
- Edmund has a loosing hand Robbin (9/28/2010 7:05 p.m.)
  - A losing hand, but there's something worth salvaging Tom P2 (9/28/2010 8:27 p.m.)

Week 2 Limerick Winners Carol (9/26/2010 12:20 p.m.)

Congrats winners! Robbin (9/26/2010 3:03 p.m.)

Lovers' Vows. Rachel G (9/24/2010 4:27 p.m.)

Correspondence between characters in Lover's Vows and MP Ramya (9/28/2010 6:12 p.m.)
- MP as Political Satire - Lovers Vows (very long) Tarn (10/17/2010 2:54 p.m.)
  - A question Barb JA (10/19/2010 7:41 a.m.)
    - Public beyond a hope Tarn (10/19/2010 3:34 p.m.)
      - Thank you Tarn Barb JA (10/20/2010 7:02 a.m.)
    - May have figured it out Barb JA (10/19/2010 9:05 a.m.)
  - Thanks Tarn, two great ones! (:D) Robbin (10/18/2010 11:27 a.m.)
  - Thanks for posting! Ramya (10/17/2010 11:39 p.m.)
  - Unbound copies Tarn (10/17/2010 3:04 p.m.)
    - Wow! Ramya (10/17/2010 11:26 p.m.)
- Thanks so much! Lenora (10/7/2010 11:33 p.m.)
- Fanny as Amelia and marriage- Act III Barb JA (9/29/2010 7:27 a.m.)
  - More on Amelia and Anhalt Ramya (9/29/2010 4:11 p.m.)
    - Fanny reading the part Barb JA (9/30/2010 9:53 a.m.)
    - Is Mary 'merely acting a part'? Rachel G (9/29/2010 6:29 p.m.)
      - Clarification Ramya (9/29/2010 7:08 p.m.)
        
        Ah - now I understand. ;-D nfm Rachel G (9/29/2010 7:36 p.m.)
- Well found! Karen G (9/28/2010 7:19 p.m.)
- The Count Cassel cross-over Tom P2 (9/28/2010 6:55 p.m.)
  - Frivolous Coxcomb Barb JA (9/29/2010 6:39 a.m.)
thanks very much for the link! Karen G (9/24/2010 10:39 p.m.)

The last sentences in CH 12 - what do they mean? Lisa Dalrymple (9/24/2010 1:33 p.m.)

the pain of a broken heart! LauraMarie (9/25/2010 8:39 a.m.)
OOPS - I mean Chapter 16!!!! nfm Lisa Dalrymple (9/24/2010 1:36 p.m.)
- Definition of tease Lisa Dalrymple (9/24/2010 1:45 p.m.)
  - thanks for looking that up Karen G (9/24/2010 10:31 p.m.)
    - Mrs. Grant Erica (9/25/2010 10:00 p.m.)

Please vote at cleo0809@hotmail.com Carol (9/24/2010 12:47 a.m.)

Friday Limericks Carol (9/24/2010 12:21 a.m.)

They're all great! Barb JA (9/24/2010 9:25 a.m.)
Spoilers in #7 and #11 (nfm) Nicki (9/24/2010 5:22 a.m.)
- #7 and #11 removed from list Myretta (9/24/2010 7:40 a.m.)

Sotherton: The Serious Side BarbaraB (9/23/2010 5:20 p.m.)

This is serious indeed KatharineW (9/25/2010 8:50 a.m.)
- HEAVY stuff here; thank you all for your insights! (nfm) Cathy Allen (9/25/2010 2:03 p.m.)
Absolutely! Leslie VZ (9/25/2010 1:31 a.m.)
Great post! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/24/2010 10:26 p.m.)
Excellent points. Julie P. (9/24/2010 2:18 p.m.)
- MP needs a 4 + hr mini-series to do it justice (NFM) jeffrey (9/24/2010 2:42 p.m.)
Thanks Barbara, Reeba (9/24/2010 10:30 a.m.)
Locked gate and the starling Barb JA (9/24/2010 7:47 a.m.)
- Further Significance BarbaraB (9/30/2010 1:33 a.m.)
  - Thanks for Your Post! Patricia AA (9/30/2010 10:26 a.m.)
  - Very fascinating. Barb JA (9/30/2010 7:08 a.m.)
- The Starling. Rachel G (9/24/2010 6:58 p.m.)
  - Starling Barb JA (9/30/2010 7:19 a.m.)
  - Maria's cage of her own choosing? Ironic quote? Mia I. (9/28/2010 4:29 a.m.)
good observation! Does Fanny on the bench have any more Lis M (9/24/2010 6:36 a.m.)
- The symbolism in Fanny staying "put?" jeffrey (9/24/2010 11:13 a.m.)
  - I agree! Lenora (10/5/2010 8:50 a.m.)
  - Robert Irvine would agree with you BarbaraB (9/30/2010 12:31 a.m.)
  - Fanny would follow if possible Stephanie (9/29/2010 10:43 p.m.)
As Dr Ian Littlewood framed it Nina RG (9/24/2010 3:50 a.m.)
Very interesting! Karen G (9/23/2010 11:21 p.m.)
- Wow! Angela L (9/24/2010 3:01 a.m.)

Theatricals: Impropriety & more Whiggery. Rachel G (9/23/2010 3:33 p.m.)

Modest theatricals vs. extravaganzas? Barb JA (9/24/2010 8:39 a.m.)
- Theatricals Bridget D (9/25/2010 1:48 a.m.)
  - Jane Austen family theatricals Ramya (9/25/2010 12:14 p.m.)
    - Theatricals Bridget D (9/26/2010 2:58 a.m.)
      - Sir Thomas and acting   Erica (9/26/2010 11:16 a.m.)
        
        The issue? Both, I think.   Rachel G (9/26/2010 6:47 p.m.)
        
        acting   Bridget D (9/27/2010 1:21 a.m.)
        
        Also...   Julie P. (9/26/2010 12:25 p.m.)

Fanny refuses to act. (Ch.15.) Rachel G (9/23/2010 11:29 a.m.)

No, not creep-mouse Robbin (9/24/2010 9:52 p.m.)
- Maturity LauraMarie (9/25/2010 8:10 a.m.)
  - Choosing Pleasure over Principle Robbin (9/25/2010 1:38 p.m.)
Creepmouse having to say no Barb JA (9/23/2010 1:25 p.m.)
- Also says something about her character Louise H (9/23/2010 3:40 p.m.)
  - That makes perfect sense. nfm Barb JA (9/24/2010 7:49 a.m.)
  - Excellent notion :-D (nfm) Nicki (9/24/2010 7:25 a.m.)
  - Succinct and exactly so, I think. Thanks LouiseH! Cathy Allen (9/23/2010 10:59 p.m.)
  - Interesting Idea! nfm Lisa Dalrymple (9/23/2010 4:31 p.m.)
    - Fanny is no part of the masquerade Angela L (9/24/2010 3:57 a.m.)
Perhaps... WendyBri (9/23/2010 12:39 p.m.)

Fanny too angry for speech. (Ch.9) Rachel G (9/23/2010 11:26 a.m.)

Gentle Reminder Carol (9/23/2010 3:43 p.m.)
- Okay - Sorry!! nfm Rachel G (9/23/2010 5:05 p.m.)
Too angry for Speech Robbin (9/23/2010 2:05 p.m.)
- Fanny Bridget D (9/25/2010 1:10 a.m.)
- Taking it personally Barb JA (9/24/2010 8:08 a.m.)
  - I do Robbin (9/24/2010 10:58 p.m.)
  - A little funny -- but also charmless Louise H (9/24/2010 10:15 a.m.)
    - Fanny's goodness Bridget D (9/25/2010 1:17 a.m.)
    - Charms & Seriousness Robbin (9/24/2010 11:05 p.m.)
    - I do agree that she takes Ramya (9/24/2010 11:11 a.m.)
      - Fanny not exempt Barb JA (9/24/2010 12:45 p.m.)
        
        Very interesting -- I'd missed Tom's post. Thanks! (nfm) Louise H (9/24/2010 1:28 p.m.)
      - Good catches -- thanks! Louise H (9/24/2010 11:39 a.m.)
- Pity. Rachel G (9/23/2010 5:29 p.m.)
  - How about relief? Karen G (9/23/2010 5:48 p.m.)
Mary's tone Ramya (9/23/2010 11:56 a.m.)
- And Edmund continues to put up with Mary's insults... jeffrey (9/23/2010 2:22 p.m.)
  - Maybe it's because I'm old and skeptical Erica (9/24/2010 9:55 p.m.)
    - Hormones? Exactly so! Rachel G (9/25/2010 6:08 a.m.)
  - I guess Barb JA (9/24/2010 9:38 a.m.)
    - I agree. Patricia AA (9/24/2010 10:14 a.m.)
      - I agree - "Forgive her for she knows not what she does" Karen G (9/24/2010 12:22 p.m.)
- Great points! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/23/2010 2:06 p.m.)

Trivia Week 1 answers- How did you do? Carol (9/21/2010 12:36 a.m.)

Limerick Contest Week Two Has Begun! Carol (9/20/2010 11:52 p.m.)

Limerick Week 1 Results Carol (9/20/2010 11:50 p.m.)

I agree -- Friday is better, please! (nfm) Cathy Allen (9/22/2010 6:07 p.m.)
Friday Lisa Dalrymple (9/21/2010 8:29 a.m.)
It would help me.. Reeba (9/21/2010 7:32 a.m.)

Edmund defending Henry. Ch.12. Rachel G (9/20/2010 5:50 p.m.)

Edmond, Fanny and Henry BarbaraB (9/22/2010 11:36 p.m.)
- I'm torn Barb JA (9/23/2010 9:32 a.m.)
Defending Henry Robbin (9/20/2010 6:28 p.m.)
- I agree, but Ramya (9/20/2010 8:13 p.m.)
  - Edmund, in a Good Light Robbin (9/21/2010 1:39 p.m.)
    - I think Ramya (9/21/2010 11:58 p.m.)
      - Siblings Robbin (9/22/2010 6:18 p.m.)
    - Edmund-Dismissive towards Fanny? Patricia AA (9/21/2010 4:27 p.m.)
      - Less ego, more chivalry Robbin (9/22/2010 1:43 p.m.)
      - I don't see it as arrogance Ramya (9/22/2010 12:05 a.m.)
  - Another example in Austen Nicki (9/21/2010 6:24 a.m.)
    - Very good point, Nicki. nfm Reeba (9/21/2010 7:29 a.m.)
  - I think that he means... Reeba (9/21/2010 2:08 a.m.)
    - I understood what he meant Ramya (9/21/2010 9:30 a.m.)
      - Liking Maria best and flirting Bridget D (9/25/2010 1:24 a.m.)
      - I agree Barb JA (9/23/2010 8:22 a.m.)
    - PS: I'm ready to.. Reeba (9/21/2010 2:14 a.m.)
  - Edmund Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:22 a.m.)
    - I guess he is... Reeba (9/21/2010 2:10 a.m.)
      - I agree and have to think of an earlier Angela L (9/21/2010 4:32 a.m.)

Horrible Henry. Rachel G (9/20/2010 5:31 p.m.)

Not I. Julie P. (9/20/2010 6:45 p.m.)
- Similar characters. Rachel G (9/20/2010 7:12 p.m.)
  - Very good point! Barb JA (9/21/2010 10:10 a.m.)
    - This is really getting into Austenuations territory Carol (9/21/2010 12:20 p.m.)
      - Sorry I veered off there. - nfm Barb JA (9/22/2010 8:02 a.m.)
Sporting with the Miss Bertrams Robbin (9/20/2010 6:17 p.m.)
- Henry's motives. Rachel G (9/22/2010 5:06 a.m.)
  - Games are Entertainment Robbin (9/23/2010 5:15 p.m.)
  - Henry's Motives. Patricia AA (9/22/2010 9:16 a.m.)
    - Keeping his options open Karen G (9/22/2010 2:40 p.m.)
    - Not sure I can answer that Lisa Dalrymple (9/22/2010 10:48 a.m.)
      - The Admiral. Rachel G (9/22/2010 11:23 a.m.)
        
        Exactly! nfm Lisa Dalrymple (9/22/2010 1:22 p.m.)
- I think you've spelled it out pretty well Barb JA (9/21/2010 10:23 a.m.)
  - Not so nice, not so wise Robbin (9/21/2010 11:40 p.m.)
- I agree completely and always wonder Angela L (9/21/2010 4:11 a.m.)
  - Foolish & Gutless Robbin (9/21/2010 11:00 p.m.)
    - Mr Rushworth needs an injection of clarity from Mr Tilney Tom P2 (9/27/2010 6:34 p.m.)
      - Wonderfully applicable—thanks for pointing it out! (:D) Robbin (9/28/2010 8:18 p.m.)
      - Good point   Ramya (9/28/2010 11:56 a.m.)
        
        Inconstant & Constant Hearts   Robbin (9/28/2010 8:16 p.m.)
        
        Indeed it is confusing   Ramya (9/29/2010 11:56 a.m.)
    - Mr Rushworth Rachel G (9/22/2010 7:33 a.m.)
      - Excellently stated. Totally agree. nfm Lisa Dalrymple (9/22/2010 10:51 a.m.)
  - I agree that playing these two sisters off against each AnnetteJ (9/21/2010 12:52 p.m.)
    - Maybe JA wrote it this way on purpose Angela L (9/22/2010 6:20 a.m.)

Mary Crawford opportunistic in chapter 15 Angela L (9/20/2010 4:43 p.m.)

Mary's motive for kindness Janey (9/21/2010 10:12 p.m.)
- Mary Bridget D (9/22/2010 1:30 a.m.)
Mary BarbaraB (9/21/2010 10:56 a.m.)
sinister? Ra (9/20/2010 5:27 p.m.)
- I agree Erica (9/20/2010 9:21 p.m.)
  - Very interesting Angela L (9/21/2010 4:43 a.m.)
    - She's trying to make everything work Karen G (9/22/2010 10:02 a.m.)
    - Mary's best moment Barb JA (9/22/2010 9:58 a.m.)

Fanny- a typical girl Ramya (9/20/2010 12:21 p.m.)

So Many Couples of Lovers Robbin (9/23/2010 8:03 p.m.)
- Fantastic! Ramya (9/23/2010 9:12 p.m.)
  - I know what you mean Robbin (9/23/2010 11:39 p.m.)
  - Well done! Karen G (9/23/2010 11:17 p.m.)
What's with Tom Bertam? Angela L (9/20/2010 4:01 p.m.)
- dancing enjoyment dictated by which partner? Karen G (9/20/2010 11:32 p.m.)
- I meant a typical girl Ramya (9/20/2010 4:16 p.m.)
  - Tom and fanny Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:20 a.m.)
    - Grateful but Grieved Robbin (9/23/2010 8:25 p.m.)
  - I don't think that Fanny is "out". Graciela (9/20/2010 4:55 p.m.)
    - Hmm... Ramya (9/20/2010 8:18 p.m.)
    - I agree. (:D) nfm Robbin (9/20/2010 5:53 p.m.)
  - I agree, very much a typical girl Angela L (9/20/2010 4:54 p.m.)
  - Would not the dances be sets of two? Christopher (9/20/2010 4:40 p.m.)
    - That was my thought... Mary Skater (9/20/2010 4:50 p.m.)

Mary's past Angela L (9/20/2010 5:12 a.m.)

The next paragraph... Nicki (9/21/2010 11:14 a.m.)
Influences BarbaraB (9/21/2010 10:32 a.m.)
Adm Crawford perhaps one bad example among many... jeffrey (9/20/2010 9:31 a.m.)
marriage Bridget D (9/20/2010 7:06 a.m.)
Maybe friends' marriages? nfm Rachel G (9/20/2010 6:46 a.m.)

Humorous Sotherton outing Barb JA (9/19/2010 10:03 a.m.)

Striking out a repartee on Edmund's behalf Tom P2 (9/27/2010 4:51 a.m.)
- LOL!! But what a good thing.... Rachel G (9/27/2010 7:55 a.m.)
The most comical part for me was... jeffrey (9/20/2010 1:50 p.m.)
A question Lisa Dalrymple (9/20/2010 9:51 a.m.)
- Yes, it's referring to poor Mr. Rushworth as the lover... nfm Ramya (9/20/2010 9:57 a.m.)
  - Another similar reference Ramya (9/20/2010 12:27 p.m.)
    - You are right Lisa Dalrymple (9/20/2010 3:46 p.m.)
      - Oh my god, I got this part wrong too Angela L (9/20/2010 5:11 p.m.)
I don't find it all that funny :-/ Laurel (9/19/2010 7:41 p.m.)
- One is laughing at, rather than *with* nfm Reeba (9/20/2010 9:27 a.m.)
- Wry humor Barb JA (9/20/2010 8:41 a.m.)
  - Sorry, I still don't see the humor Laurel (9/20/2010 11:03 a.m.)
    - That's all right Barb JA (9/21/2010 7:57 a.m.)
    - It's a mental picture... Reeba (9/20/2010 4:14 p.m.)
  - I agree with your post. Patricia AA (9/20/2010 9:09 a.m.)
    - Sibling rivalry Barb JA (9/21/2010 8:48 a.m.)
    - I think you're right to be disappointed BarbaraB (9/20/2010 4:40 p.m.)
      - The defense was 'thin'. Patricia AA (9/20/2010 7:25 p.m.)
- I'm with you. Julie P. (9/19/2010 8:02 p.m.)
My favourite part... Reeba (9/19/2010 11:40 a.m.)
- I agree- delicious writing Barb JA (9/19/2010 12:08 p.m.)
  - Fanny sheltering the reputations of those around her.... jeffrey (9/20/2010 1:32 p.m.)
  - Heath Catherine Ann (9/19/2010 12:18 p.m.)
    - Thanks Barb and Catherine. Reeba (9/19/2010 1:10 p.m.)
  - Fanny as Peacemaker Patricia AA (9/19/2010 12:18 p.m.)
    - I don't think... Reeba (9/19/2010 1:21 p.m.)
    - It reminds me of the "Wedding of Figaro" Angela L (9/19/2010 12:54 p.m.)
      - Walking Alone Robbin (9/19/2010 11:25 p.m.)
        
        Thanks for clarifying Angela L (9/20/2010 2:35 a.m.)
      - I Believe You're Right!   Patricia AA (9/19/2010 1:35 p.m.)
        
        I don't believe either of the film versions   Nina RG (9/20/2010 11:04 a.m.)
        
        The best Sotherton...   Reeba (9/19/2010 1:39 p.m.)

Edmund- no ordinary hero Barb JA (9/19/2010 8:54 a.m.)

Delusional Edmund Nicki (9/21/2010 9:11 a.m.)
- Funny scene Barb JA (9/22/2010 10:55 a.m.)
Another way of looking... Reeba (9/19/2010 12:02 p.m.)
- Not offense really Barb JA (9/19/2010 1:05 p.m.)
  - I agree with Reeba that for Edmund the church is just AnnetteJ (9/20/2010 7:47 a.m.)
    - Clergy Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:25 a.m.)
      - I agree that he is more serious than most but he is still AnnetteJ (9/22/2010 8:42 a.m.)
        
        I just realized: calling Barb JA (9/22/2010 10:37 a.m.)

Edmund's reaction to Mary's smutty joke. Rachel G (9/18/2010 5:34 p.m.)

My take on this scene Angela L (9/19/2010 6:24 a.m.)
- Mary has Foot-in-Mouth Disease. (:-D) Rachel G (9/19/2010 11:26 a.m.)
  - Mary's openness Karen G (9/19/2010 9:07 p.m.)
Edmunds reaction Pat (9/18/2010 11:15 p.m.)
- Jokes Bridget D (9/19/2010 3:20 a.m.)
  - That's my interpretation too. Reeba (9/19/2010 11:50 a.m.)
    - I disagree. It was well-known in Jane Austen's time AnnetteJ (9/19/2010 12:43 p.m.)
      - Rears and Vices   Bridget D (9/20/2010 1:19 a.m.)
        
        I'm feeling very stupid   Erica (9/20/2010 9:45 p.m.)
        
        Horses and admirals   Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:32 a.m.)
        
        Oh, yes   Erica (9/21/2010 11:46 p.m.)
        
        Yes, rude and consistent   Barb JA (9/21/2010 7:05 a.m.)
        
        In addition..   Reeba (9/20/2010 9:25 a.m.)
        
        I could be wrong, but two girls growing up in a household   AnnetteJ (9/20/2010 10:08 a.m.)
        
        To quote ...   Reeba (9/20/2010 4:27 p.m.)
        
        racy stuff   Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:30 a.m.)
        
        Sure, but...   Reeba (9/21/2010 1:53 a.m.)
        
        puns and vices   Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:34 p.m.)
        
        Lovers' Vows   Barb JA (9/21/2010 7:31 a.m.)
      - Whether Mary specifically meant Ramya (9/19/2010 1:05 p.m.)
        
        Agree! nfm Rachel G (9/19/2010 2:24 p.m.)
      - It's not the question of... Reeba (9/19/2010 1:00 p.m.)
  - Not so shocking after all. Rachel G (9/19/2010 4:58 a.m.)
    - Rears and Vices Bridget D (9/19/2010 5:15 a.m.)
      - Coarseness   Barb JA (9/19/2010 7:29 a.m.)
        
        I agree!   Lenora (9/21/2010 9:27 p.m.)
        
        Manner & Countenance   Robbin (9/19/2010 10:14 p.m.)
        
        Edmund again felt grave.   Rachel G (9/20/2010 6:05 a.m.)
        
        Mostly   Robbin (9/20/2010 10:09 a.m.)
        
        He's grave and not...   Reeba (9/20/2010 9:16 a.m.)
        
        Puns and Navy   Bridget D (9/20/2010 7:09 a.m.)
        
        Good point about Mary misjudging her company! nfm   Ramya (9/20/2010 12:12 p.m.)
        
        That makes sense. Thanks Bridget D. nfm   Rachel G (9/20/2010 8:57 a.m.)
        
        You can be a Vice Admiral   Nina RG (9/19/2010 8:56 a.m.)
        
        Ah, Vice Admiral, thank you.   Barb JA (9/19/2010 9:22 a.m.)
        
        Angela L   Angela L (9/19/2010 8:10 a.m.)
        
        Very interesting   Carol (9/19/2010 10:37 a.m.)
        
        Thanks for the idea   Angela L (9/20/2010 2:46 a.m.)
        
        A clever pun or an innocent remark? Well, I think you can   AnnetteJ (9/19/2010 8:22 a.m.)
        
        Sorry, I forgot to put a Subject on the last message!   Angela L (9/19/2010 8:15 a.m.)

Limerick Contest, Week 1 Carol (9/18/2010 1:38 a.m.)

And now for something completely different: Trivia! Carol (9/18/2010 12:36 a.m.)

I never thought to ask: Carol (9/17/2010 11:44 p.m.)

Welcome to you all. Carol (9/18/2010 8:06 p.m.)
First-time reader here Cathy Allen (9/18/2010 3:33 p.m.)
Almost a Newbie to MP Patricia AA (9/18/2010 12:29 a.m.)
- Also almost a Newbie Angela L (9/18/2010 6:13 a.m.)

The outs and not outs Tori Marie (9/17/2010 12:05 p.m.)

Edmund's social skills LauraMarie (9/19/2010 3:32 a.m.)
- Edmund not out Bridget D (9/19/2010 4:00 a.m.)
How about this tack on Edmund's "coming out" remark? jeffrey (9/17/2010 2:00 p.m.)
- Really serviceable to Mrs. Price Robbin (9/17/2010 10:51 p.m.)
  - Would Sir Thomas provide for Fanny> Patricia AA (9/17/2010 11:29 p.m.)
    - Fanny’s Future Robbin (9/18/2010 4:49 p.m.)
    - Fanny's future and Sir T Bridget D (9/18/2010 1:32 a.m.)
      - Not a Miss Bertram Robbin (9/19/2010 9:42 p.m.)
      - That's exactly what I mean   Tori Marie (9/18/2010 10:19 a.m.)
        
        Fanny and Sir Thomas   Bridget D (9/18/2010 2:43 p.m.)
        
        Expectations and duties   Mia I. (9/18/2010 1:24 p.m.)
        
        Maria and Julia did have their coming-out balls.   Graciela (9/20/2010 3:57 p.m.)
        
        Coming out   Bridget D (9/21/2010 1:34 a.m.)
        
        There's a reason why I think that they had coming-out balls   Graciela (9/21/2010 3:12 p.m.)
        
        out and not out   Bridget D (9/22/2010 1:26 a.m.)
Tom's week at Ramsgate. Rachel G (9/17/2010 1:29 p.m.)

There seems to be a lot of "dark" dialouge & discri greg (9/17/2010 6:56 a.m.)

The hair and eyes? Reeba (9/17/2010 8:35 a.m.)
Not likely Myretta (9/17/2010 8:21 a.m.)
I don't think there's any evidence of that LauraMarie (9/17/2010 8:12 a.m.)
The only book of near that era that has a mixed race AnnetteJ (9/17/2010 7:55 a.m.)
- Mixed race Bridget D (9/17/2010 8:36 a.m.)
  - Thanks! nfm AnnetteJ (9/17/2010 10:11 a.m.)
    - Very interesting Angela L (9/18/2010 6:22 a.m.)

Lady Bertram a bore to anyone but Fanny? jeffrey (9/16/2010 5:20 p.m.)

perfect security from any sound of unkindness Karen G (9/19/2010 10:23 p.m.)
Enjoyed being avowedly useful Catherine Ann (9/17/2010 8:41 a.m.)
- I agree Tori Marie (9/17/2010 10:44 a.m.)
  - One more point. Stephanie (9/17/2010 8:26 p.m.)
Fanny and Lady B Bridget D (9/17/2010 1:16 a.m.)
Lady Bertram was kind, in her own vague way, to Fanny & AnnetteJ (9/16/2010 5:39 p.m.)
- Very true Erica (9/16/2010 9:53 p.m.)

After Mr. Norris dies, Fanny is to move to Mrs. Norris Angela L (9/16/2010 1:51 p.m.)

Well... Julie P. (9/17/2010 6:47 a.m.)
- Good comparison to Jane Bennet Ramya (9/17/2010 8:06 a.m.)
  - Agreed. It wouldn't have. Julie P. (9/18/2010 12:05 p.m.)
Edmund has always tried to improve Fanny... Stacey GC (9/16/2010 5:04 p.m.)
I posted on another thread regarding this... Karen G (9/16/2010 2:44 p.m.)
- Meant to say agree with Tori Marie! :) nfm Karen G (9/16/2010 2:45 p.m.)
I have to add Angela L (9/16/2010 2:10 p.m.)
- I think this is a case... Tori Marie (9/16/2010 2:34 p.m.)
- He is just trying Ramya (9/16/2010 2:30 p.m.)
  - I agree with Ramya, but I also think this conversation shows Lis M (9/17/2010 3:11 a.m.)

"If you want Henry to marry, you must have...a Frenchwoman?? Stacey GC (9/16/2010 11:32 a.m.)

Ooh la la & merci beaucoup for enlightening me. nfm Stacey GC (9/16/2010 4:56 p.m.)
I agree with everything that people said Laraine (9/16/2010 4:29 p.m.)
- What does Mary think of herself? Mia I. (9/17/2010 6:03 a.m.)
  - Reflection on Mary's views Nicki (9/17/2010 8:20 a.m.)
    - I agree with your observations on Mary. Patricia AA (9/18/2010 1:07 p.m.)
    - Limitations of a shallow mind or lack of experience? Mia I. (9/18/2010 12:35 p.m.)
French stereotypes? Karen G (9/16/2010 12:33 p.m.)
My take on this... Tori Marie (9/16/2010 12:29 p.m.)
- I agree nfm Lisa Dalrymple (9/16/2010 1:25 p.m.)

The Importance of Landscape in MP. Patricia AA (9/15/2010 9:44 p.m.)

I think it's very important. Julie P. (9/16/2010 6:14 a.m.)
- Changing landscape styles. Rachel G (9/16/2010 6:04 p.m.)
  - I think this is okay, Rachel Carol (9/17/2010 12:21 a.m.)
- Well said, both of you, thanks! Cathy Allen (9/16/2010 6:03 p.m.)

Gentle reminder re: Spoilers Carol (9/15/2010 8:53 p.m.)

Losing patience with Mary Isabelle M (9/15/2010 3:07 p.m.)

Is Mary’s performance part of a take-in? Robbin (9/17/2010 2:43 p.m.)
This may be moved to Austenautions, but Sofia L (9/17/2010 4:03 a.m.)
- My thoughts exactly Tarn (9/17/2010 9:59 a.m.)
  - Harsher Light Robbin (9/19/2010 5:53 p.m.)
  - Great analysis! Rachel G (9/17/2010 11:34 a.m.)
Good description, I knew she made me uneasy Cathy Allen (9/16/2010 12:41 p.m.)
You're right Angela L (9/15/2010 3:20 p.m.)
- Mary Crawford is so accomplished but is..... jeffrey (9/15/2010 4:13 p.m.)
  - I'll get back to you, however... jeffrey (9/16/2010 8:20 a.m.)
  - Please could you clarify. Rachel G (9/15/2010 5:47 p.m.)

That apricot tree Louise H (9/15/2010 11:13 a.m.)

MP as Political Satire: Charged as a Moor Park Tarn (9/21/2010 9:30 a.m.)
- Amazing! Thank you! nfm Ramya (9/23/2010 11:34 a.m.)
- Terrific! Thanks so much! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/21/2010 11:52 p.m.)
- Amazing..Thank you Tarn Carol (9/21/2010 10:13 p.m.)
- Incredible! Lenora (9/21/2010 9:44 p.m.)
- Wow!! Rachel G (9/21/2010 1:22 p.m.)
Could it be greg (9/17/2010 6:41 a.m.)
What is the point of the Apricot? Rachel G (9/16/2010 2:25 p.m.)
- I agree! Lenora (9/20/2010 5:34 p.m.)
- Good Summation, Rachel G, thank you! nfm Carol (9/17/2010 11:03 p.m.)
- after seeing the picture Sofia L (9/17/2010 4:07 a.m.)
Agree with your analysis Nicki (9/15/2010 5:42 p.m.)
- What are their judgments based on? LauraMarie (9/17/2010 1:35 a.m.)
  - Maybe I'll switch focus... Nicki (9/17/2010 12:33 p.m.)
- Good point about Mrs. Norris's role in both! (nfm) Louise H (9/15/2010 10:08 p.m.)
- Then Mrs. Grant enters the conversation. Stephanie (9/15/2010 7:30 p.m.)
It's another example.. Lisa Dalrymple (9/15/2010 12:41 p.m.)
Dr. Grant doubts the apricot tree's pedigree. Patricia AA (9/15/2010 12:03 p.m.)
- Very enlightening! Isabelle M (9/15/2010 2:53 p.m.)
- Thanks very interesting! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/15/2010 12:43 p.m.)

questions about "cousins in love" Lis M (9/15/2010 4:02 a.m.)

Let's try to stay within the Group Read, please Laurel (9/15/2010 8:11 a.m.)
- Some of those pages have spoilers of MP nfm Stephanie (9/15/2010 7:33 p.m.)
Marrying down Myretta (9/15/2010 7:51 a.m.)
- And besides class issues,there were probably money issues as well Lydia (9/15/2010 11:43 a.m.)
Cousins marrying. Rachel G (9/15/2010 7:48 a.m.)
- Thank you for the link. As a family historian I know that AnnetteJ (9/15/2010 8:08 a.m.)
  - Rachel's link Myretta (9/15/2010 9:34 a.m.)
    - Just made an observation that I was not going to expand AnnetteJ (9/15/2010 2:16 p.m.)
      - cousins, money etc Lis M (9/15/2010 3:20 p.m.)

Limerick Update Carol (9/15/2010 12:37 a.m.)

Mr. Rushworth! Carol (9/15/2010 12:14 a.m.)

Heavy Mr Rushworth Isabelle M (9/15/2010 2:07 p.m.)
- Heavy. Rachel G (9/15/2010 3:28 p.m.)
  - Oh, my! Erica (9/15/2010 8:23 p.m.)
  - According to Johnson - Heavy means... Christopher (9/15/2010 5:38 p.m.)
    - Fascinating! Tori Marie (9/16/2010 5:11 p.m.)
    - I wondered about it, too; thanks Christopher (nfm) Cathy Allen (9/16/2010 12:22 p.m.)
    - Thanks for the info! nfm Carol (9/15/2010 8:14 p.m.)
Edmund about Mr Rushworth Lis M (9/15/2010 2:37 a.m.)
- Edmund has a nasty streak? Robbin (9/15/2010 12:36 p.m.)
  - One might think... Karen G (9/16/2010 2:34 p.m.)
    - Edmund's own opinion, or a reflection of how his family judges? Tom P2 (9/24/2010 12:39 a.m.)
      - Stupid Bridget D (9/24/2010 1:08 a.m.)
    - True, but... Tori Marie (9/16/2010 5:16 p.m.)
      - It would be   Erica (9/16/2010 10:02 p.m.)
        
        If Edmund does not see Rushworth's lack of intelligence   Frances G (9/18/2010 1:35 a.m.)
        
        Does "not more than common sense" = "stupid"   Karen G (9/24/2010 12:20 p.m.)
        
        stupid   Bridget D (9/25/2010 1:51 a.m.)
        
        omniscient narrator   Karen G (9/25/2010 11:20 a.m.)
    - Not if it is true Robbin (9/16/2010 4:02 p.m.)
  - nasty and infantile Lis M (9/16/2010 3:40 a.m.)
    - Neither Mean or Infantile Robbin (9/16/2010 5:31 a.m.)
      - Another reason Edmund approves the idea... Karen G (9/16/2010 2:30 p.m.)
      - still not sure E. hasn't also got a little nasty streak - dense   Lis M (9/16/2010 10:17 a.m.)
        
        crying for different reasons   Karen G (9/16/2010 2:40 p.m.)
        
        Fanny and Edmund   Bridget D (9/17/2010 1:21 a.m.)
        
        "Stupid and insensitive"   MelissaJoy (9/18/2010 4:17 p.m.)
        
        Edmund   Bridget D (9/19/2010 3:26 a.m.)
        
        I feel the same way   BarbaraB (9/20/2010 3:30 p.m.)
        
        I don't see any any evidence   Ramya (9/17/2010 8:20 a.m.)
        
        Exactly.   Julie P. (9/18/2010 12:11 p.m.)
        
        Couldn't agree more   Erica (9/16/2010 10:10 p.m.)
        
        I agree and thank you! (:D) nfm   Robbin (9/16/2010 4:04 p.m.)
  - And why is common sense looked down upon? That is a AnnetteJ (9/15/2010 2:28 p.m.)
    - Common Sense Robbin (9/15/2010 7:43 p.m.)
      - You said that better than I did ;P (nfm) Nicki (9/16/2010 9:20 a.m.)
      - Agree nfm BarbaraB (9/15/2010 9:23 p.m.)
    - 'More' is perhaps the key word Nicki (9/15/2010 3:59 p.m.)
      - Mr. Rushworth lacks social awareness or "delicacy." jeffrey (9/15/2010 4:35 p.m.)
        
        Thanks to both of you! I think that is probably the case AnnetteJ (9/15/2010 5:07 p.m.)

Selfishness must always be forgiven? Robbin (9/14/2010 10:34 p.m.)

I think Mary knows exactly what she is doing. Carol (9/15/2010 12:08 a.m.)
- What does Mary achieve here and why is Fanny ill? Mia I. (9/17/2010 6:37 a.m.)
  - Fanny's Health Rachel G (9/17/2010 11:26 a.m.)
    - Great post! Erica (9/17/2010 9:53 p.m.)
      - Yes, thank you, food for thought NFM Mia I. (9/18/2010 12:21 p.m.)
- "Glib" - a good description of Mary. nfm Rachel G (9/15/2010 4:09 a.m.)

The dreariness of Mansfield Park. Rachel G (9/14/2010 8:55 p.m.)

The Dreariness Melinda (9/16/2010 9:54 a.m.)
- Please remember to use your Pemberley name Myretta (9/16/2010 11:16 a.m.)
I agree Lisa Dalrymple (9/15/2010 1:41 p.m.)
It feels somewhat deliberate Nicki (9/15/2010 9:40 a.m.)
Partly agree. Carol (9/14/2010 11:55 p.m.)
- Escape. Rachel G (9/15/2010 2:22 p.m.)
Not entirely. Julie P. (9/14/2010 10:01 p.m.)
- Laughing at MP Tori Marie (9/16/2010 1:27 p.m.)
- This novel is funny! Isabelle M (9/15/2010 2:21 p.m.)
  - Me too! Ramya (9/16/2010 3:15 p.m.)
  - Still don't see it Louise H (9/15/2010 10:25 p.m.)
    - Mary Crawford can be funny Laraine (9/16/2010 4:52 p.m.)
      - She is often funny Erica (9/16/2010 10:14 p.m.)
    - The parts I posted... Julie P. (9/16/2010 12:40 p.m.)
      - I do, I do think them funny, thanks! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/16/2010 3:37 p.m.)
- MP is a very fine novel. Rachel G (9/15/2010 12:23 p.m.)
  - Totally agree..... jeffrey (9/16/2010 12:53 p.m.)
I couldn't have said it better! Patricia AA (9/14/2010 9:51 p.m.)

Sir Thomas' parting shot. (End of Ch.3) Rachel G (9/14/2010 3:14 p.m.)

Doormat Frances G (9/18/2010 1:07 a.m.)
I don't think he was aware of the effect Angela L (9/14/2010 4:01 p.m.)
- Sir Thomas's meaning Stephanie (9/14/2010 5:29 p.m.)
  - I think it's her shyness Tori Marie (9/16/2010 12:43 p.m.)
  - He is certainly not a father in the mold of other AnnetteJ (9/14/2010 7:22 p.m.)

Can Fanny and Mary be friends? BarbaraB (9/14/2010 8:24 a.m.)

Interesting to think about Lisa Dalrymple (9/16/2010 1:45 p.m.)
But they are not interested in the same things Isabelle M (9/15/2010 2:43 p.m.)
- Mary to be bored with Fanny? Karen G (9/19/2010 8:55 p.m.)
If not for Edmund Erica (9/14/2010 10:15 p.m.)
Differences & Similarities Robbin (9/14/2010 9:57 p.m.)
As a first-time reader, I think you've got it right Cathy Allen (9/14/2010 12:08 p.m.)
- Yes, but for some reason Angela L (9/14/2010 2:41 p.m.)
  - Sharing Edmund. Rachel G (9/14/2010 3:28 p.m.)
    - Her strong feelings Angela L (9/14/2010 4:10 p.m.)
      - Fanny's standing Stephanie (9/14/2010 5:32 p.m.)

Lady Bertram and Mrs. Norris Erica (9/13/2010 8:00 p.m.)

Mrs Norris getting her own way. Rachel G (9/14/2010 9:12 a.m.)
IMO this is just.... Reeba (9/14/2010 7:24 a.m.)
- It makes Mrs Norris look like a Mr Collins! nfm AnnetteJ (9/14/2010 9:04 a.m.)
  - The only difference is Angela L (9/14/2010 3:10 p.m.)
    - Motives: Mrs. Norris vs. Mr. Collins Stephanie (9/14/2010 5:34 p.m.)
      - I agree Angela L (9/15/2010 1:23 p.m.)

Fanny's First Real Excursion BarbaraB (9/13/2010 4:20 p.m.)

Fanny's Age BarbaraB (9/13/2010 9:30 p.m.)
- To answer your statement... Cathy Allen (9/13/2010 11:16 p.m.)
  - Poor relation Bridget D (9/15/2010 12:59 a.m.)
No cares about Fanny Patricia AA (9/13/2010 4:38 p.m.)
- She was pretty quiet when she arrived (nfm) Nicki (9/13/2010 4:55 p.m.)
  - She was very quiet, but why? Patricia AA (9/13/2010 5:01 p.m.)
    - Several reasons... jeffrey (9/14/2010 8:18 a.m.)
      - Fanny the cipher   Barb JA (9/14/2010 9:38 a.m.)
        
        So does JA want her readers to feel pity for Fanny?   Patricia AA (9/14/2010 9:56 a.m.)
        
        Well, I keep wanting to shout at people...   Mary Skater (9/15/2010 4:43 p.m.)
        
        Hear hear! (nfm)   Nicki (9/15/2010 4:59 p.m.)
        
        Oh My! Please Don't Shout...   Patricia AA (9/15/2010 4:56 p.m.)
        
        Fanny needs to evolve?   Robbin (9/15/2010 9:47 p.m.)
        
        Fanny & Timidity   Patricia AA (9/16/2010 12:32 a.m.)
        
        Comfortable as a Martyr?   Robbin (9/16/2010 4:50 a.m.)
        
        Fanny as a Victim   Patricia AA (9/16/2010 8:24 a.m.)
        
        Fanny and creepmouse   Bridget D (9/19/2010 4:24 a.m.)
        
        Survivor   Robbin (9/16/2010 8:09 p.m.)
        
        Doormat Fanny   Barb JA (9/17/2010 7:33 a.m.)
        
        I Have My Bone!!!!   Patricia AA (9/19/2010 10:33 a.m.)
        
        LOL!   Barb JA (9/19/2010 2:12 p.m.)
        
        JA always knows best.   Patricia AA (9/17/2010 7:51 p.m.)
        
        It's funny   Barb JA (9/19/2010 8:06 a.m.)
        
        LOL - not even a bone!   Karen G (9/17/2010 9:58 a.m.)
        
        Sympathetic View   Barb JA (9/19/2010 7:53 a.m.)
        
        Oops, should have been a reply to Patricia. nfm   Barb JA (9/17/2010 7:38 a.m.)
        
        Not everyone   Ramya (9/16/2010 11:25 a.m.)
        
        Totally agree   Tori Marie (9/17/2010 11:15 a.m.)
        
        [Jane Austen is] no everyday talent   Stephanie (9/17/2010 7:51 p.m.)
        
        Edmund-I need group help in understanding his character.   Patricia AA (9/17/2010 8:33 p.m.)
        
        Edmund   Bridget D (9/18/2010 3:36 a.m.)
        
        Steady Eddie Falls   Carol (9/17/2010 11:37 p.m.)
        
        intensity of interaction   Karen G (9/19/2010 11:03 p.m.)
        
        Tom - Ever the Gallant (Not !!!)   Patricia AA (9/19/2010 11:35 p.m.)
        
        Meant to Add   Patricia AA (9/19/2010 11:42 p.m.)
        
        Tom's and Edmund's circles   Karen G (9/20/2010 2:19 p.m.)
        
        Yes, this will be revisited in later chapters too (NFM)   jeffrey (9/15/2010 12:33 p.m.)
    - Personality Erica (9/13/2010 5:10 p.m.)
      - Ooh, found an interesting quote   Nicki (9/13/2010 5:35 p.m.)
        
        It would certainly have been unusual for the oldest girl   AnnetteJ (9/14/2010 9:12 a.m.)
        
        Fanny's role and Mrs. N's choice   Tori Marie (9/17/2010 11:36 a.m.)
        
        She knows her place   LauraMarie (9/14/2010 5:09 a.m.)
        
        That's a very good point.   Erica (9/13/2010 5:46 p.m.)
        
        Did JA error in making Fanny So Timid?   Patricia AA (9/13/2010 6:02 p.m.)
        
        I wonder whether it was very deliberate indeed   Tom P2 (9/19/2010 10:35 p.m.)
        
        Interesting thought. nfm   Karen G (9/19/2010 10:54 p.m.)
        
        No error: I believe JA emphasizes Fanny's timidity so...   jeffrey (9/14/2010 8:25 a.m.)
        
        No error.   Rachel G (9/13/2010 6:25 p.m.)
        
        I feel very much with Fanny.   Angela L (9/14/2010 3:36 p.m.)
        
        We'll discuss it later.   Patricia AA (9/13/2010 6:51 p.m.)

Mary’s best laid plans Robbin (9/13/2010 2:31 p.m.)

Edmund's attentions will do for the present. Rachel G (9/13/2010 7:09 p.m.)
- Good points! (:D) nfm Robbin (9/14/2010 3:17 a.m.)

The other family living held for Edmund Angela L (9/13/2010 2:22 p.m.)

I understood it to mean... Mary Skater (9/13/2010 2:30 p.m.)
- A-Ha! Angela L (9/13/2010 2:35 p.m.)

And Now for Something Fun! Carol (9/13/2010 1:03 a.m.)

L&T topics Carol (9/13/2010 12:27 a.m.)

Tom and Inheritance Law BarbaraB (9/12/2010 11:56 p.m.)

Somehow I find... Reeba (9/14/2010 7:47 a.m.)
Well said, BarbaraB Cathy Allen (9/13/2010 10:59 p.m.)

The Ward Sisters and Class BarbaraB (9/12/2010 11:17 p.m.)

I thought lower class were servants, etc (?) (NFM) jeffrey (9/13/2010 12:20 p.m.)
her heart was divided between [them] Stephanie (9/13/2010 11:23 a.m.)
- Class Bridget D (9/13/2010 11:58 a.m.)
- Fanny's Heart PatriciaF (9/13/2010 11:57 a.m.)
- Whose heart? Myretta (9/13/2010 11:35 a.m.)
  - [I] did not forget to think of it seriously Stephanie (9/13/2010 2:14 p.m.)
    - Incomes and Status. Rachel G (9/13/2010 2:53 p.m.)
    - Subject lines Myretta (9/13/2010 2:49 p.m.)
      - Okay Stephanie (9/14/2010 1:05 p.m.)

Promotion in the Marines. Rachel G (9/12/2010 6:15 p.m.)

Found the answer: seniority Louise H (9/13/2010 9:31 p.m.)
- Aahhh... That explains it!!! Rachel G (9/14/2010 4:22 a.m.)
- Thanks BarbaraB (9/13/2010 9:40 p.m.)
Was 'marines' something like... Reeba (9/13/2010 7:53 a.m.)
- The Royal Marines were officially formed in 1755 as AnnetteJ (9/13/2010 9:39 a.m.)
  - Thanks, AnnetteJ and Jeffrey nfm Reeba (9/13/2010 5:08 p.m.)
  - A little more on Marines, FWIW... jeffrey (9/13/2010 12:41 p.m.)
    - And another snippet... Rachel G (9/13/2010 7:30 p.m.)
  - Thanks for taking the trouble to search, AnnetteJ, nfm Rachel G (9/13/2010 10:25 a.m.)
    - My pleasure! nfm AnnetteJ (9/13/2010 11:25 a.m.)
Looked a little but couldn't find anything that was AnnetteJ (9/13/2010 7:43 a.m.)
- The point of my query. Rachel G (9/13/2010 8:46 a.m.)
  - Thank you. That is what I thought but just wanted to AnnetteJ (9/13/2010 9:25 a.m.)

Affection is Henry’s Object Robbin (9/12/2010 4:28 p.m.)

Cad Alert! Rachel G (9/12/2010 5:20 p.m.)
- LOL! Robbin (9/14/2010 3:27 a.m.)

Matrimony is Mary's Object Robbin (9/12/2010 4:13 p.m.)

Edmund's horses Nina RG (9/12/2010 2:46 p.m.)

Generally speaking Charlotte R. (9/12/2010 3:28 p.m.)
- Ahh, okay Nina RG (9/13/2010 11:14 a.m.)

The uncle lawyer. Reeba (9/12/2010 2:37 p.m.)

Answered in the thread right below yours Myretta (9/12/2010 3:26 p.m.)
- Ah yes. Thanks. nfm Reeba (9/12/2010 5:55 p.m.)

Miss Maria Wards Dowary Lyzah (9/12/2010 2:02 p.m.)

Short of a claim to the match Catherine Ann (9/12/2010 2:40 p.m.)
- The ten thousand pound standard (small digression onto Emma) Tom P2 (9/16/2010 10:11 p.m.)
- Thanks for Clarification Lenora (9/15/2010 4:18 p.m.)
- yes exactly Lyzah (9/12/2010 2:46 p.m.)
  - Glad I could help. nfm Catherine Ann (9/12/2010 6:33 p.m.)

On board and ready Lyzah (9/12/2010 8:16 a.m.)

People of Fortune Robbin (9/12/2010 1:43 a.m.)

Neglect of Duty seems a bit harsh Tarn (9/12/2010 7:06 p.m.)
- Home & Harp Robbin (9/14/2010 2:15 a.m.)
- the problem with Everingham Janey (9/13/2010 3:49 p.m.)
Wondering why Henry would not provide residence for Mary. Lyzah (9/12/2010 8:36 a.m.)
- Henry Bridget D (9/13/2010 12:00 p.m.)
- Didn't want to be tied down Catherine Ann (9/12/2010 8:58 a.m.)
  - I agree, and also kathleen (elder) (9/12/2010 9:08 a.m.)
    - London Rachel G (9/12/2010 11:59 a.m.)
      - to persuade her brother to settle with her   Stephanie (9/12/2010 1:27 p.m.)
        
        It's possible that Henry kept a small staff   kathleen (elder) (9/12/2010 8:06 p.m.)
        
        Also, if you think about it...   Tori Marie (9/16/2010 11:50 a.m.)
        
        Good point   Louise H (9/12/2010 9:58 p.m.)
        
        Thinking the same thing   BarbaraB (9/12/2010 6:47 p.m.)
        
        My point exactly   Lyzah (9/12/2010 1:55 p.m.)

Mrs. Norris – Too Angry Robbin (9/12/2010 1:33 a.m.)

Mrs Norris - classic bully Janey (9/13/2010 2:49 p.m.)
- Good point! nfm Rachel G (9/13/2010 2:56 p.m.)
Did Mrs. Norris "cause" the breach? Laurel (9/12/2010 8:56 a.m.)
- Laying Groundwork Robbin (9/12/2010 4:57 p.m.)
  - I maybe wrong here but to me it sounds as if greg (9/14/2010 6:46 p.m.)
    - Ask & You Shall Receive Robbin (9/14/2010 11:00 p.m.)
      - She seems to have eloped, don't you think?   Graciela (9/15/2010 2:53 p.m.)
        
        At home or abroad   Robbin (9/15/2010 8:20 p.m.)
        
        These questions always bring me to mind...   Karen G (9/17/2010 2:36 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Tori Marie (9/16/2010 8:23 a.m.)
- She did all she could to make sure of it. Rachel G (9/12/2010 12:59 p.m.)
  - Sir Thomas' pride Linda L (9/16/2010 9:44 a.m.)
  - Who can talk to whom? Melinda (9/12/2010 8:29 p.m.)
    - Please to return to the Newcomers' board Myretta (9/12/2010 10:12 p.m.)
  - Spirit of Activity Robbin (9/12/2010 8:22 p.m.)
    - Good points about Mrs Norris and her needs. I think she AnnetteJ (9/14/2010 9:01 a.m.)
The Ward Sisters BarbaraB (9/12/2010 8:12 a.m.)
- Miss Frances Tori Marie (9/16/2010 8:47 a.m.)
  - True BarbaraB (9/16/2010 5:54 p.m.)
    - Angry people are not always wise :-) (nfm) Nicki (9/17/2010 8:28 a.m.)
      - Also True :) nfm BarbaraB (9/17/2010 10:44 a.m.)
- Being Eldest Carol (9/12/2010 1:00 p.m.)
- She wants to protect her role in the family LauraMarie (9/12/2010 8:58 a.m.)
  - Does Fanny challenge Mrs. Norris? Robbin (9/12/2010 1:41 p.m.)
    - No, not directly LauraMarie (9/14/2010 5:20 a.m.)
Mrs Norris likes to manage other people Mary Skater (9/12/2010 7:23 a.m.)
- Maria made the "best" marriage by the AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 1:21 p.m.)
  - The trappings of success - even if it's someone else's success Tom P2 (9/15/2010 7:25 p.m.)
    - That was very laugh out loud funny! nfm Barb JA (9/16/2010 3:25 p.m.)
- Miss Ward and Miss Frances Stephanie (9/12/2010 1:16 p.m.)
  - Children Lyzah (9/12/2010 2:43 p.m.)
    - Not likely she PREVENTED children Cathy Allen (9/12/2010 4:49 p.m.)
      - I agree as I stated below -- my belief is that he was AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 4:53 p.m.)
    - Mr Norris might have been incapable of siring a child AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 4:30 p.m.)
      - What sort of mother would Mrs Norris be? YIKES (NFM)   jeffrey (9/13/2010 9:22 a.m.)
        
        Amid the cares [] which [her] own children suggested   Stephanie (9/13/2010 11:37 a.m.)
        
        Parenting style of Mrs. Norris in Ch. 2   Barb JA (9/13/2010 5:53 p.m.)
        
        Not a very attractive picture, to be sure   Erica (9/13/2010 7:48 p.m.)
        
        Away at school   Barb JA (9/14/2010 7:17 a.m.)
        
        I think   Erica (9/14/2010 10:27 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris hereafter known as Mrs. Nasty! :) nfm   Barb JA (9/17/2010 8:36 a.m.)
      - Or perhaps...   Rachel G (9/12/2010 4:58 p.m.)
        
        I'm astounded   Angela L (9/13/2010 1:23 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris could not possibly keep to herself   Stephanie (9/13/2010 2:22 p.m.)
        
        The key to Mrs. Norris' character   Carol (9/13/2010 4:20 p.m.)
        
        I'm not sure if I'm right   Angela L (9/13/2010 3:04 p.m.)
        
        That makes sense   Barb JA (9/14/2010 7:35 a.m.)
        
        Very interesting   Frances G (9/13/2010 11:49 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris does enjoy being in charge.   Patricia AA (9/14/2010 12:16 a.m.)
        
        It is a Twisted Way of Revenge   Lenora (9/15/2010 3:37 p.m.)
        
        Revenge & Importance   Robbin (9/15/2010 6:08 p.m.)
        
        Perhaps Competitive Rather Than Revengeful   Lenora (9/16/2010 10:04 a.m.)
        
        Good points (:D)   Robbin (9/16/2010 7:42 p.m.)
        
        That and something else   Tori Marie (9/16/2010 11:39 a.m.)
        
        "A niece of ours, Sir Thomas",   nan duval (9/18/2010 10:06 a.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris 's Imagination doing OT?   Patricia AA (9/16/2010 6:03 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris may not have had revenge in her heart.   Patricia AA (9/15/2010 7:43 p.m.)
        
        Needed rather than Needy   Robbin (9/16/2010 2:42 a.m.)
        
        Edmund is Fanny's only emotional support at MP.   Patricia AA (9/16/2010 9:18 a.m.)
        
        Emotions & Desperation   Robbin (9/16/2010 5:57 p.m.)
        
        Interesting thought!   Nina RG (9/13/2010 3:29 p.m.)
        
        I wondered about that   Nicki (9/13/2010 3:26 p.m.)
        
        But when Fanny arrives to Mansfield Park   Graciela (9/13/2010 3:19 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris as a mother ??!   Patricia AA (9/13/2010 2:44 p.m.)
        
        Mrs. Norris should ever have it in her power   Stephanie (9/14/2010 12:56 p.m.)
        
        Well, I wonder how much of that side of herself was   AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 5:16 p.m.)
      - P.S. Unless you thought they might inherit AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 4:33 p.m.)

Thoughts on Guidelines Carol (9/12/2010 12:12 a.m.)

Read and ready! nfm Robbin (9/12/2010 1:32 a.m.)

Welcome to the Mansfield Park Group Read! Carol (9/11/2010 9:51 p.m.)

Oh, dear! Almost missed this one! Elbè (9/20/2010 7:58 a.m.)
In vain have I struggled, it will not do Ramya (9/16/2010 2:26 p.m.)
Going to try and keep up! Tori Marie (9/15/2010 9:50 p.m.)
- Tori! It's so wonderful to see you here! :-))) Laurel (9/16/2010 8:40 a.m.)
  - Thanks, Laurel! Tori Marie (9/16/2010 11:43 a.m.)
Focus on sympathetic view of all characters Karen G (9/15/2010 4:10 p.m.)
Better late than never! Lisa Dalrymple (9/15/2010 12:47 p.m.)
Sorry I don't think I'll be able to join you Elizabeth K (9/14/2010 12:23 p.m.)
Hello Frances G (9/13/2010 11:54 p.m.)
Hi, I'm Nancy & I'm a Jane Austen addict. nan duval (9/13/2010 8:15 p.m.)
Hi all! Angela L (9/13/2010 2:05 p.m.)
Hello Barb JA (9/13/2010 11:49 a.m.)
A couple of focuses Nicki (9/13/2010 6:03 a.m.)
- Beware of Spoilers! Patricia AA (9/13/2010 8:51 a.m.)
Hallo, and why was Fanny JA's favourite Tom P2 (9/12/2010 5:39 p.m.)
- Why is Fanny JA's favorite? Melinda (9/12/2010 8:33 p.m.)
  - a few questions concerning "cousins in love" Lis M (9/15/2010 2:03 a.m.)
  - Fanny as Hestia is not terribly farfetched, except that AnnetteJ (9/13/2010 7:53 a.m.)
  - "Religiousity" and MP Patricia AA (9/12/2010 11:27 p.m.)
    - Seven deadly sins...and virtues Stacey GC (9/15/2010 1:42 p.m.)
      - Pug is a Devil Dawgg!   Patricia AA (9/15/2010 4:37 p.m.)
        
        Does JA really equates gout with gluttony?   Graciela (9/16/2010 1:10 p.m.)
        
        Yes,,,   Tori Marie (9/16/2010 2:22 p.m.)
    - exceedingly timid and shy, and shrinking from notice Stephanie (9/13/2010 2:03 p.m.)
Hello, everyone Tarn (9/12/2010 3:16 p.m.)
- I will be very interested in reading your posts Karen G (9/17/2010 2:20 p.m.)
- I Look Forward to Your Perspective Lenora (9/13/2010 6:00 p.m.)
- Wonderful BarbaraB (9/12/2010 6:13 p.m.)
- How refreshing Lyzah (9/12/2010 4:09 p.m.)
reflections [that she] could not possibly keep to herself Stephanie (9/12/2010 1:08 p.m.)
I would like to focus on Lord and Lady Bertram and their AnnetteJ (9/12/2010 7:25 a.m.)
- A small correction :-) Graciela (9/14/2010 4:28 p.m.)
Hi everybody! Rachel G (9/12/2010 7:23 a.m.)
Thanks, Carol. I'm focussing on... Reeba (9/12/2010 5:35 a.m.)
- Same here Isabelle M (9/12/2010 4:56 p.m.)
  - Hello, everyone PatriciaF (9/13/2010 11:47 a.m.)
Greetings one and all Robbin (9/12/2010 12:57 a.m.)
Thanks BarbaraB (9/11/2010 11:03 p.m.)
- Happy to join in the fun! Stacey GC (9/15/2010 1:36 p.m.)

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