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The Forsyte Saga - The Man of Property.

Thanks to Golda! LaurieC (10/16/2004 10:13 a.m.)

Same here, thank you Golda Elsie (10/16/2004 6:02 p.m.)

Wasn't Irene's note chilling? Rosalie (10/15/2004 9:51 a.m.)

Bone chilling Golda (10/15/2004 10:01 a.m.)

Bosinney's demise LaurieC (10/14/2004 10:34 p.m.)

I think Bosinney was self-centered, even Sharon Alanna (10/15/2004 1:40 p.m.)
I definitely believe Bosinney was Rosalie (10/15/2004 9:37 a.m.)
- An accident Golda (10/15/2004 9:58 a.m.)
  - Yes an accident. He was too Rosalie (10/15/2004 1:38 p.m.)
    - Was it rage? Debra R (10/15/2004 4:15 p.m.)
      - Exactly. He really was powerless and that Rosalie (10/15/2004 9:03 p.m.)

Lesser characters Golda (10/14/2004 9:53 a.m.)

Young Jolyon & his wife Rebecca Ann (10/14/2004 1:04 p.m.)

The end of the book Golda (10/14/2004 9:52 a.m.)

The tangled twosome LaurieC (10/14/2004 9:00 p.m.)
Galsworthy left me wondering Rosalie (10/14/2004 5:16 p.m.)
Golda, are we going to discuss Rosalie (10/14/2004 11:41 a.m.)
- If you like Golda (10/14/2004 1:21 p.m.)
  - I also have to read it. I would like to Rosalie (10/14/2004 5:06 p.m.)
    - I've been very bad! Deborah d'Bajor (10/15/2004 4:21 a.m.)
      - Interlude was part of Book One. nfm Rosalie (10/15/2004 9:39 a.m.)
      - I'm in the bad club, too LaurieC (10/15/2004 9:09 a.m.)
        
        I was the same Golda (10/15/2004 9:52 a.m.)

Touching Scene Golda (10/12/2004 1:45 p.m.)

James and Emily Sharon Alanna (10/13/2004 7:35 a.m.)
Soames & his parents Rebecca Ann (10/12/2004 3:11 p.m.)
- Soames Golda (10/12/2004 6:03 p.m.)

Aunt Juley Golda (10/12/2004 1:42 p.m.)

Next Group Read Kathleen (10/12/2004 8:29 a.m.)

Next in the rotation: Emma LaurieC (10/12/2004 9:41 a.m.)

FUP Fun Golda (10/11/2004 12:35 p.m.)

Two more Golda (10/14/2004 9:56 a.m.)
- Some FUPs I found Frederica (10/15/2004 7:36 p.m.)
...the great saddle-of-mutton controversy... nfm Linda (Ann) (10/12/2004 2:06 p.m.)
A regular Juley LaurieC (10/12/2004 9:35 a.m.)
FUP Elsie (10/12/2004 9:21 a.m.)
Possible FUPs Rosalie (10/11/2004 8:00 p.m.)

Irene and June Golda (10/11/2004 11:27 a.m.)

My reaction Melissa (10/14/2004 1:47 a.m.)

George Golda (10/10/2004 4:32 p.m.)

It was a good thing George did follow Rosalie (10/11/2004 7:51 p.m.)

More on Old Jolyon Golda (10/10/2004 4:30 p.m.)

Old Jolyon Tori Marie (10/10/2004 6:31 p.m.)
- June Golda (10/10/2004 7:25 p.m.)

Divorce standards Golda (10/10/2004 4:18 p.m.)

I think that Mrs. McAnder was accepted for Sharon Alanna (10/10/2004 10:53 p.m.)

question about the different kind of vehicles Elsie (10/10/2004 11:09 a.m.)

Vehicle Descriptions Golda (10/10/2004 11:49 a.m.)
- A link Golda (10/10/2004 11:59 a.m.)
  - thank you Golda Elsie (10/10/2004 1:09 p.m.)

Joining up late... Frederica (10/7/2004 12:16 a.m.)

West India Sharon Alanna (10/7/2004 12:37 p.m.)

Favorite Characters Golda (10/6/2004 11:38 a.m.)

Old Jolyon is my favorite character. Rosalie (10/7/2004 8:34 a.m.)
- absolutely my favourite as well Elsie (10/10/2004 11:02 a.m.)
- He is mine as well. (nfm) Kristen G. (10/7/2004 4:45 p.m.)
- James Sharon Alanna (10/7/2004 12:40 p.m.)

So what do you think so far? Golda (10/6/2004 11:37 a.m.)

Real life got in the way ;-) Linda (10/9/2004 12:30 p.m.)
- same here Elsie (10/10/2004 11:04 a.m.)
From a lurker Mary Frances 2 (10/9/2004 7:43 a.m.)
A bit behind MiriB (10/9/2004 7:10 a.m.)
- Also late J Amanda (10/11/2004 5:59 a.m.)
Reading on....(and watching, too) Linda (Ann) (10/8/2004 5:52 p.m.)
Got ahead of myself Tori Marie (10/8/2004 12:47 p.m.)
- Starting Sunday... Golda (10/8/2004 5:32 p.m.)
  - Never fear, Golda! ;-) Tori Marie (10/9/2004 1:04 a.m.)
I'm enjoying it Kristen G. (10/7/2004 4:44 p.m.)
My thoughts Melissa (10/6/2004 10:41 p.m.)
Enjoying the novel LaurieC (10/6/2004 10:21 p.m.)

Sympathies Deborah d'Bajor (10/6/2004 4:44 a.m.)

My sympathies Golda (10/6/2004 11:22 a.m.)

Diagnosis of a Forsyte Golda (10/4/2004 9:37 p.m.)

Perspective LaurieC (10/6/2004 12:04 a.m.)
- I get it.... Golda (10/6/2004 11:31 a.m.)
  - Clarification LaurieC (10/6/2004 1:30 p.m.)
    - 15 years Golda (10/6/2004 1:51 p.m.)
In Young Jo's letter to his father, he said Rosalie (10/5/2004 12:56 p.m.)
- Stream? Golda (10/5/2004 3:06 p.m.)
  - I took 'stream' to mean Rosalie (10/5/2004 10:04 p.m.)
    - Excellent definition of "in the stream" nfm Sharon Alanna (10/7/2004 2:57 a.m.)
Young Jolyon and Bosinney Rebecca Ann (10/5/2004 11:54 a.m.)
- Young Joloyn, Bosinney, June Sharon M (10/6/2004 2:57 a.m.)
  - YJ and June J Amanda (10/11/2004 5:54 a.m.)
  - I agree Golda (10/6/2004 11:34 a.m.)
  - Posted under Sharon M Incorrectly-MFM Sharon Alanna (10/6/2004 9:06 a.m.)

The "Coming Out" Party Golda (10/4/2004 9:32 p.m.)

Francie LaurieC (10/5/2004 9:21 a.m.)
- Opinion on Francie Sharon Alanna (10/7/2004 2:38 a.m.)
Well Melissa (10/4/2004 10:49 p.m.)

JG's language - Linda (Ann) (10/4/2004 11:09 a.m.)

Yes Myretta (10/4/2004 11:45 a.m.)

Dance at Roger's Rosalie (10/3/2004 7:03 p.m.)

He's a cad Golda (10/3/2004 11:42 p.m.)
- I'd say, distracted Debra R (10/4/2004 6:24 a.m.)

Questions on family crest, etc. LaurieC (10/3/2004 2:27 p.m.)

Shades of Mrs. Bennet Golda (10/3/2004 1:55 p.m.)

Good catch Debra R (10/3/2004 7:09 p.m.)
Yes I did think of Mrs. Bennet but Rosalie (10/3/2004 7:09 p.m.)

Montague Dartie Golda (10/3/2004 1:50 p.m.)

Who is worse off? Rosalie (10/3/2004 7:14 p.m.)

Afternoon at Timothy's Golda (10/3/2004 1:47 p.m.)

Picturing the scene LaurieC (10/3/2004 2:20 p.m.)

Aunt Ann's Funeral Anne Charlotte (9/28/2004 3:47 p.m.)

I had exactly the same question Elsie (9/28/2004 4:10 p.m.)
- Not Victorian Golda (9/28/2004 4:20 p.m.)
  - Another royal funeral Debra R (9/28/2004 4:32 p.m.)
    - George VI (nfm) Golda (9/28/2004 4:59 p.m.)

The Forsyte 'Change LaurieC (9/27/2004 10:06 p.m.)

My feeling is that he was in that half-sleep state as they went Rosalie (9/28/2004 8:29 a.m.)

Old Jolyon at the Zoo Golda (9/27/2004 11:51 a.m.)

Thats one of my fav parts... Karolina (9/27/2004 2:24 p.m.)
- Yes, it is nice Sari2 (9/27/2004 5:21 p.m.)
  - And... Deborah d'Bajor (9/28/2004 8:03 a.m.)

Irene's Confession Golda (9/26/2004 1:38 p.m.)

Irene's courtship LaurieC (9/26/2004 2:02 p.m.)
- On that theme.... Deborah d'Bajor (9/27/2004 9:14 a.m.)
  - Divorce Sari2 (9/27/2004 12:06 p.m.)
  - Viewing Irene as his property is Rosalie (9/27/2004 9:28 a.m.)

Soames the least liked Forsyte Rosalie (9/26/2004 11:11 a.m.)

Soames Golda (9/26/2004 1:27 p.m.)
- I got the idea from a passage Rosalie (9/27/2004 9:42 a.m.)
I think that soemes mother ... Karolina (9/26/2004 11:40 a.m.)

Undertaking pay LaurieC (9/26/2004 10:35 a.m.)

I think he was being sarcastic. They don't like each other and Rosalie (9/26/2004 10:48 a.m.)

Bonsinney & Irene too close for comfort Tara O'Donnell (9/26/2004 8:58 a.m.)

I won't take that bet. It seems the Rosalie (9/26/2004 11:41 a.m.)

Humorous Bits Golda (9/23/2004 1:28 p.m.)

Timothy MiriB (9/24/2004 8:25 a.m.)
The saddle-of-mutton controversy LaurieC (9/23/2004 11:28 p.m.)
Lots of humor and irony - Rosalie (9/23/2004 3:49 p.m.)
- I agree Anne Charlotte (9/24/2004 4:35 p.m.)

Some thoughts about Ann Forsyte, the eldest Rosalie (9/22/2004 11:42 p.m.)

I think that they love her because... Karolina (9/23/2004 11:52 a.m.)
- Yes, in rereading the passages Rosalie (9/23/2004 3:38 p.m.)

The price of everything, and everyone Linda (Ann) (9/22/2004 2:39 p.m.)

Not real MiriB (9/24/2004 10:15 a.m.)
Rose point lace Debra R (9/22/2004 4:16 p.m.)
- Thanks, Debra - & question LaurieC (9/22/2004 9:16 p.m.)
  - That's my guess Debra R (9/22/2004 10:10 p.m.)
agree with most but Elsie (9/22/2004 3:36 p.m.)

Soames's pictures Myretta (9/22/2004 9:44 a.m.)

I dont think that he liked modern art... Karolina (9/22/2004 12:29 p.m.)
- Modernism Myretta (9/23/2004 12:16 p.m.)

Jolyon - Young & Old LaurieC (9/22/2004 9:38 a.m.)

Both Jolyons relationship A LITTLE,VERY LITTLE SPOILER Karolina (9/22/2004 1:02 p.m.)
- Please don't post spoilers Myretta (9/22/2004 1:38 p.m.)
wasn't it brave though Elsie (9/22/2004 11:00 a.m.)
- Some speculations Anne Charlotte (9/22/2004 12:14 p.m.)
  - Old Jolyon is my favorite character so Rosalie (9/22/2004 12:31 p.m.)
  - Old J's motivations Golda (9/22/2004 12:23 p.m.)
    - Insightful LaurieC (9/22/2004 9:12 p.m.)
    - this is exactly how I see it as well Elsie (9/22/2004 12:46 p.m.)

Soames, novel reader LaurieC (9/21/2004 9:43 a.m.)

Novel reading, art and beauty Anne Charlotte (9/22/2004 12:25 p.m.)
- although Elsie (9/22/2004 12:48 p.m.)
also note the fact that he Elsie (9/21/2004 12:08 p.m.)
- Don't think so. Debra R (9/21/2004 1:23 p.m.)

Robin Hill Myretta (9/21/2004 9:39 a.m.)

Another interpretation Golda (9/21/2004 11:28 a.m.)

Country House BeccaSP (9/20/2004 6:54 p.m.)

Leaving familiar territory Myretta (9/21/2004 9:29 a.m.)
Puzzling over artwork, etc. LaurieC (9/20/2004 11:04 p.m.)
- Mine, mine, mine! Louise H (9/21/2004 11:50 a.m.)
  - Private posessions Debra R (9/21/2004 1:21 p.m.)
    - Ah!! Tori Marie (9/21/2004 3:25 p.m.)
      - More on the cat scene LaurieC (9/21/2004 10:24 p.m.)
        
        Social pressure and children Debra R (9/22/2004 6:50 a.m.)
      - But I think he is jealous of the cat Faith R (9/21/2004 6:19 p.m.)
- I thought that old Jolyon Elsie (9/21/2004 5:17 a.m.)
  - old Jolyon and paintings Alison H (9/22/2004 10:53 a.m.)
  - Me too Golda (9/22/2004 7:56 a.m.)
Some thoughts Golda (9/20/2004 10:42 p.m.)

The surface Myretta (9/20/2004 1:55 p.m.)

Galsworthy is a Forsyte Golda (9/20/2004 3:56 p.m.)
- Galsworthy's realism Anne Charlotte (9/22/2004 12:38 p.m.)
So much repression... LaurieC (9/20/2004 3:30 p.m.)
- I was so depressed Alison H (9/21/2004 9:12 a.m.)
  - Shutting down emotions LaurieC (9/21/2004 9:37 a.m.)
what a good observation. Elsie (9/20/2004 3:09 p.m.)
- I didn't know that TFS was advertised as a comedy but Rosalie (9/20/2004 9:36 p.m.)

soames Elsie (9/20/2004 2:26 a.m.)

Soames is a difficult man to Rosalie (9/20/2004 9:41 a.m.)
Perhaps I'm alone Melissa (9/20/2004 4:17 a.m.)
- I sort of agree with you Amy Louise (9/20/2004 3:35 p.m.)
  - Oh I agree with you too. Faith R (9/21/2004 6:25 p.m.)
    - Soames again, or rather Irene... Sari2 (9/23/2004 6:20 p.m.)
    - Yes.... Kristen G. (9/21/2004 8:22 p.m.)
      - A divided public   Golda (9/22/2004 8:05 a.m.)
        
        I saw that '60s production and   Rosalie (9/22/2004 9:49 a.m.)
        
        1967 or 68?   Golda (9/22/2004 11:06 a.m.)
        
        It was 1969 according to Amazon.com   Rosalie (9/22/2004 12:45 p.m.)
        
        Dates   Golda (9/23/2004 1:10 p.m.)
        
        Yes. You're right. Thanks - nfm   Rosalie (9/23/2004 9:58 p.m.)
        
        I noticed that they sell the complete series   Elsie (9/22/2004 11:30 a.m.)
        
        I bought it   Golda (9/22/2004 12:17 p.m.)
        
        thank you Golda I will keep this in mind NFM   Elsie (9/22/2004 12:56 p.m.)

Rumors about Irene Kristen G. (9/19/2004 5:38 p.m.)

The mysterious "they" LaurieC (9/19/2004 7:38 p.m.)
my thoughts are Elsie (9/19/2004 6:11 p.m.)
- I believe it was June too. Rosalie (9/19/2004 11:29 p.m.)
  - I disagree Tori Marie (9/20/2004 11:05 a.m.)
    - Maybe June meant no harm Elsie (9/20/2004 12:56 p.m.)
    - I see your point but Rosalie (9/20/2004 12:53 p.m.)

The little questions LaurieC (9/19/2004 12:05 p.m.)

Two waistcoats! Tori Marie (9/20/2004 10:58 a.m.)
- The layered look Myretta (9/20/2004 11:53 a.m.)
Word usage LaurieC (9/19/2004 12:20 p.m.)
- More on atoms LaurieC (9/19/2004 7:27 p.m.)

I like the way Galsworthy opens the story describing Rosalie (9/19/2004 11:10 a.m.)

That was one of my first questions, too! LaurieC (9/19/2004 11:51 a.m.)
- Social Climbing Golda (9/19/2004 3:44 p.m.)
  - Wealth building v. social climbing LaurieC (9/19/2004 5:35 p.m.)
    - Defining social climbing Golda (9/19/2004 9:24 p.m.)
      - Groucho Forsythe? Tori Marie (9/20/2004 10:47 a.m.)
        
        Is this the "something"? LaurieC (9/20/2004 11:45 p.m.)
      - The Club LaurieC (9/19/2004 9:38 p.m.)
        
        Climbing and clubs Sari2 (9/23/2004 3:16 p.m.)

Bit confused Natalie-Marie (9/19/2004 9:15 a.m.)

we are only reading tha man of property Elsie (9/19/2004 9:18 a.m.)
- Many characters Golda (9/19/2004 10:11 a.m.)
  - My thanks too, Golda! Tori Marie (9/20/2004 11:10 a.m.)
  - The family tree MiriB (9/20/2004 3:32 a.m.)
  - Thank you - the family tree LaurieC (9/19/2004 11:44 a.m.)
    - Pronouncition Golda (9/19/2004 3:32 p.m.)
      - Thank you! :-) *nfm* LaurieC (9/19/2004 5:36 p.m.)
  - thank you so much Golda NFm Elsie (9/19/2004 10:55 a.m.)

Galsworthy�s Other Writings Golda (9/19/2004 8:55 a.m.)

GR-Isolation in a crowd Tara O'Donnell (9/19/2004 8:45 a.m.)

Further isolation LaurieC (9/20/2004 12:25 a.m.)
- contradictions Tara O'Donnell (9/20/2004 8:30 a.m.)

Brief Galsworthy Bio Golda (9/19/2004 8:42 a.m.)

Thanks,Golda Tara O'Donnell (9/19/2004 8:49 a.m.)
- My sourcebook Golda (9/19/2004 9:03 a.m.)
  - You're so lucky! Tara O'Donnell (9/20/2004 8:33 a.m.)

Intro to The Forsyte Saga Golda (9/19/2004 7:52 a.m.)

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