Perhaps our definitions of snub vary.

Quick Index Board Index Home FAQ Site Map

View thread | Previous message | Next message

Perhaps our definitions of snub vary. Written by Reeba (2/23/2011 3:39 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Emma and snubbing, penned by Annalise

The only snub I think was taking place in her head about the Coles.

Definition;
To ignore or behave coldly toward; slight. To dismiss, turn down, or frustrate the expectations of.

Emma doesn't do any of the above to Miss Bates. She doesn't visit her 'that much', but invites her home for cards, so ignored she isn't.

She didn't decline to be introduced to Robert Martin.
Decline would mean it was offered and she said 'no'.
According to the above definition, Emma doesn't know Robert so, being cold, dismiss, slight, turn down or frustrate expectations doesn't fit. I don't think Robert expected anything or was frustrated.

The visit to the Martins was in keeping with the decorum of the time.
Again, none of the definition words fit.

>she snubs Elton by making it clear how far beneath her she imagines him to be when he proposes.

How did she make it clear? She told him about her expectations.
The thought;
"so well understanding the gradations of rank below him, and be so blind to what rose above, as to fancy himself shewing no presumption in addressing her! "

...was in her head once she was home.

In fact it was Mr Elton who snubbed her by a cold response to her 'Good Night', and it was Jane who snubbed her by being, cold, and frustrating her expextations. Remember 'stonewalling?' ;-)
Whether she deserved it or not from Jane is debatable (which we 'have' been debating this past week).

Previous message | Next message | Board index

Chapt. 33: the BAROUCHE-LANDAU is back! Delories (2/23/2011 6:54 a.m.)

Maybe not So Used to Fancy Carriages Jane Marie (2/23/2011 12:27 p.m.)
- Advertised as 'Barouche-Landau' Tarn (2/23/2011 2:05 p.m.)
  - carriages Tamtam (2/24/2011 10:40 a.m.)
    - Landaulettes are smaller Tarn (2/24/2011 1:42 p.m.)
    - "Signalling having more than one carriage" is key... Delories (2/24/2011 10:47 a.m.)
- That's a good point about the BAROUCHE-LANDAU Delories (2/23/2011 12:44 p.m.)
I am suprised Lisa Dalrymple (2/23/2011 11:45 a.m.)
LOL! Yes. Reeba (2/23/2011 11:03 a.m.)
- Emma and snubbing Annalise (2/23/2011 12:40 p.m.)
  - Perhaps our definitions of snub vary. Reeba (2/23/2011 3:39 p.m.)
    - Yes Annalise (2/23/2011 5:38 p.m.)
    - Stonewalling BarbaraB (2/23/2011 5:15 p.m.)
      - I like your opinion! (:D) nfm Robbin (2/24/2011 12:10 p.m.)
        
        :) nfm BarbaraB (2/27/2011 12:58 a.m.)
  - Difference between thoughts and actions Felicity (2/23/2011 3:15 p.m.)
    - Emma’s Graciousness Robbin (2/24/2011 12:02 p.m.)
      - I don't see any....   Reeba (2/24/2011 6:20 p.m.)
        
        Emma & Inferiors   Robbin (2/27/2011 8:41 p.m.)
        
        Yes, I go by this theory too, but that wasn't the....   Reeba (2/28/2011 10:16 a.m.)
        
        Snub & Acquaintance   Robbin (3/2/2011 10:42 a.m.)
        
        Emma's gracious behaviour.   Reeba (3/2/2011 6:01 p.m.)
      - Re: Emma's Graciousness   Felicity (2/24/2011 5:17 p.m.)
        
        Mere common politeness and good-breeding   Robbin (2/27/2011 8:17 p.m.)
        
        Suppose we agree to disagree.   Felicity (2/28/2011 11:05 a.m.)
        
        Sure, I will agree to disagree   Robbin (3/2/2011 11:55 a.m.)
        
        You do wish to make....   Reeba (3/2/2011 4:16 p.m.)
        
        Emma into a Saint   Robbin (3/5/2011 1:21 a.m.)
        
        Not directly, perhaps, ...   gianni (2/28/2011 9:37 p.m.)
        
        There's a difference.   Reeba (3/1/2011 12:40 a.m.)
        
        Miss Bates and Emma's visits   Bridget D (3/2/2011 2:50 p.m.)
        
        Sending Food   BarbaraB (3/5/2011 8:53 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Robbin (3/6/2011 8:45 p.m.)
        
        Miss Bates!!! Miss Bates!!! Miss Bates!!!! :-)   Reeba (3/6/2011 8:55 a.m.)
        
        Thank you, ...   gianni (3/7/2011 4:18 p.m.)
        
        Emm and the Battses   Bridget D (3/12/2011 6:03 p.m.)
        
        Expectatiions (Long)   BarbaraB (3/6/2011 4:48 p.m.)
        
        Yes, perhaps.   Reeba (3/6/2011 5:07 p.m.)
        
        any [suggestion] that may offer   Stephanie (3/6/2011 4:02 p.m.)
        
        Agree.   Reeba (3/6/2011 4:38 p.m.)
        
        teh poor and Miss bates   Bridget D (3/6/2011 9:16 a.m.)
        
        Brides and Emma   Bridget D (2/28/2011 5:59 p.m.)
        
        Agreed (nfm)   Felicity (2/28/2011 6:16 p.m.)
        
        I agree with your viewpoint   Ramya (2/28/2011 11:42 a.m.)
        
        Just Joking   Robbin (3/2/2011 11:08 a.m.)
        
        I don't see any evidence   Ramya (3/4/2011 9:49 p.m.)
        
        Emma's social obligations   Bridget D (3/5/2011 6:11 a.m.)
        
        But even more ...   gianni (3/5/2011 9:16 p.m.)
        
        Emma had done.   Reeba (3/2/2011 4:24 p.m.)
        
        Jokes and Mr W   Bridget D (3/4/2011 10:55 a.m.)
        
        Thank you (nfm)   Felicity (2/28/2011 1:00 p.m.)
        
        lack of snobbery   Nikki N (2/28/2011 2:02 a.m.)
        
        Source of Snobbery   Robbin (3/2/2011 10:47 a.m.)
        
        Snobbery   Bridget D (3/2/2011 3:09 p.m.)
        
        If   Robbin (3/4/2011 8:11 p.m.)
        
        Snobbery   Bridget D (3/5/2011 6:13 a.m.)
        
        That is an awful lot of snobs   Robbin (3/5/2011 12:02 p.m.)
        
        even more snobs   Tarn (3/6/2011 6:28 a.m.)
        
        One patroness too many   Robbin (3/6/2011 11:52 p.m.)
        
        Agree   BarbaraB (3/7/2011 1:30 p.m.)
        
        Good point   Robbin (3/7/2011 4:48 p.m.)
        
        Class   Bridget D (3/6/2011 7:45 a.m.)
        
        Snobbery   Bridget D (3/5/2011 4:25 p.m.)
        
        Since you have said it several times, I suggest that   kathleen (elder) (3/5/2011 4:42 p.m.)
        
        Examination of JA characters.   Reeba (3/5/2011 12:55 p.m.)
        
        Oh, I see now but   Robbin (3/5/2011 4:11 p.m.)
        
        poor Mr. [Woodhouse] is not to blame? nfm   Stephanie (3/6/2011 3:53 p.m.)
        
        I don't see that Mr. Woodhouse is a snob. Do you? (:D) nfm   Robbin (3/6/2011 4:01 p.m.)
        
        Let us understand each other now,   Stephanie (3/6/2011 4:10 p.m.)
        
        Oh sure   Robbin (3/6/2011 7:13 p.m.)
        
        find fault with me you know -- in a joke   Stephanie (3/7/2011 4:32 p.m.)
        
        Half read books :-D   Reeba (3/5/2011 7:51 p.m.)
  - Emma's inner soliloquy in chapt. 25 is telling Delories (2/23/2011 12:47 p.m.)
    - Yes, but that's what she thought, not what she did (nfm) Frances G (2/23/2011 11:24 p.m.)
      - Exactly. In the post starting off this thread... Delories (2/24/2011 6:54 a.m.)

Groupread is maintained by Myretta with WebBBS 3.21.

View thread | Previous message | Next message Board index

- Jane Austen | Republic of Pemberley -

Quick Index

Home

Site Map

JAInfo