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I wonder this too. Written by Ra (2/11/2011 2:54 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Where did Emma's Class Sense From?, penned by Jane Marie

Mr Knightley's feelings about Harriet are coming to mind. His main objections to her are her illegitimacy and consequent poorer schooling, aren't they? I'm sure he would never withold Harriet's human rights or anything like that - he was quite happy for her to marry Mr Martin - but he assumes because of her background she will be doing very very well to marry him.

Everyone else, though, has more contact with people Emma sees as 'third rate' like the Martins and the Coxes. It seems as if Emma is very confident in her own small social circle, but hasn't had much opportunity to mix. She assumes people she doesn't know very well have dreadful characteristics because their manners are a little different.

I suppose we must remember Emma's youth here. I remember myself at that age and I was quite similar at times. In a way, as a product of her older age "Emma" is blunter about all the failings immaturity gives you. It may be less flattering, but I found it more true.

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Emma and Mrs/Miss Bates -- what a sad commentary on AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 9:21 a.m.)

Is it necessarily about rank? Could it be about good-breeding? Tom P2 (2/13/2011 4:32 a.m.)
Not at all. I'm not... Reeba (2/11/2011 10:54 a.m.)
- Emma means to avoid the "second and third rate" AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 11:04 a.m.)
  - Miss Bates and Emma Bridget D (2/11/2011 3:58 p.m.)
  - But she visited poor people in their cottages, Graciela (2/11/2011 2:05 p.m.)
    - classes and visits Nikki N (2/12/2011 6:18 a.m.)
      - Well Said nfm BarbaraB (2/13/2011 11:54 a.m.)
  - Where did Emma's Class Sense From? Jane Marie (2/11/2011 12:55 p.m.)
    - Jumping in on this question Sarah Hannah (2/13/2011 1:49 a.m.)
      - Good explanation. Elizabeth Anne II (2/13/2011 8:47 a.m.)
      - Emma Bridget D (2/13/2011 2:49 a.m.)
    - I'm curious too. A younger Mr. Woodhouse perhaps? Elizabeth Anne II (2/11/2011 5:40 p.m.)
      - Emma and Class   Bridget D (2/12/2011 9:12 a.m.)
        
        Well, he is not demented, but he is not as sharp as   AnnetteJ (2/12/2011 10:12 a.m.)
        
        Emma   Bridget D (2/12/2011 4:14 p.m.)
        
        I have to agree with much of what you have said.   Patricia AA (2/12/2011 2:01 p.m.)
        
        Different use of the word "demented"   Elizabeth Anne II (2/12/2011 4:42 p.m.)
        
        Mr Woodhouse   Bridget D (2/12/2011 5:09 p.m.)
        
        agree to disagree.   Elizabeth Anne II (2/12/2011 5:22 p.m.)
    - Class Bridget D (2/11/2011 3:59 p.m.)
    - Emma very prejudicial, unless it pertains to Harriet! (NFM) jeffrey (2/11/2011 3:12 p.m.)
    - I wonder this too. Ra (2/11/2011 2:54 p.m.)
      - Visiting the parish poor was a duty as the ranking female   AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 3:54 p.m.)
        
        Emma's visits were not out of duty....   Reeba (2/11/2011 6:48 p.m.)
        
        Emma nad Miss Bates   Bridget D (2/12/2011 3:41 a.m.)
        
        Mr K and Emma   Bridget D (2/11/2011 4:03 p.m.)
        
        The big difference is that Mr Knightley recognizes   AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 4:37 p.m.)
        
        Mr K and society   Bridget D (2/12/2011 9:35 a.m.)
        
        FYI: according to an on-line article in the Guardian UK   AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 4:54 p.m.)
        
        he doesn't want to come forward then?   Ra (2/11/2011 6:16 p.m.)
        
        Should he have to come forward if Harriet marry?   Graciela (2/13/2011 8:49 p.m.)
        
        Harriets mohter   Bridget D (2/12/2011 9:47 a.m.)
        
        Harriet's mother   Nikki N (2/13/2011 3:00 a.m.)
        
        Harriet's mother   Bridget D (2/13/2011 8:30 a.m.)
        
        Harriet   Bridget D (2/11/2011 5:02 p.m.)
        
        Because if she had been, then it would have been easy   AnnetteJ (2/12/2011 8:09 a.m.)
        
        harriet's father   Bridget D (2/12/2011 9:14 a.m.)
Understandable sentiments Lauren Ashley (2/11/2011 9:40 a.m.)
- No, alas, it was not. However, in some regards, Mr AnnetteJ (2/11/2011 10:49 a.m.)
  - Emma Bridget D (2/11/2011 4:07 p.m.)
  - The class... Reeba (2/11/2011 11:06 a.m.)
- Immaturity Jane Marie (2/11/2011 10:25 a.m.)
  - As Ms. Austen said... Natalie (2/12/2011 9:33 a.m.)

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