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Interesting. Thanks, all. (nfm)
Written by Louise H
(2/11/2011 10:07 a.m.)
in consequence of the missive,
governesses
, penned by Nikki N
No further message
The reserved Jane Fairfax (Chapter 20) -- long
Anne-Marie
(
2/9/2011 7:08 p.m.
)
Good discussion comparing and contrasting these two...
jeffrey
(
2/11/2011 12:28 p.m.
)
Another contrast is in Emma's favour: health. nfm
Tom P2
(
2/13/2011 3:58 a.m.
)
Jane Fairfax is a dull, boring...
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 5:58 a.m.
)
PS: Her lacklustre response....
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 6:15 a.m.
)
Maybe she realizes Emma is on a fishing expedition to
AnnetteJ
(
2/11/2011 8:55 a.m.
)
Of course she does. Emma is hardly subtle about it
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/11/2011 12:38 p.m.
)
And this is where I get annoyed with Emma again!
Erica M.
(
2/12/2011 9:06 a.m.
)
I agree -- not the center of attention with the less showy
AnnetteJ
(
2/12/2011 9:17 a.m.
)
To be fair to Emma, she accepts...
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 6:43 p.m.
)
We don't actually know if Jane's praise was effusive
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/14/2011 11:51 a.m.
)
Which would mean one can...
Reeba
(
2/14/2011 2:06 p.m.
)
Do you mean to say
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/14/2011 3:38 p.m.
)
not rude, too polite
Nikki N
(
2/15/2011 5:27 a.m.
)
So much dignified impertinence
Tom P2
(
2/14/2011 6:40 p.m.
)
Since we are not really told what questions...
Reeba
(
2/14/2011 5:22 p.m.
)
Mystery of the Questions
Robbin
(
2/16/2011 12:39 p.m.
)
I don't normally take Mr Knightley's word as 'must be'.
Reeba
(
2/17/2011 10:20 a.m.
)
I see it more as indifference
Ramya
(
2/17/2011 10:45 a.m.
)
I don't see the question...
Reeba
(
2/17/2011 11:00 a.m.
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the [dis]agreeableness of yesterday's engagement
Stephanie
(
2/16/2011 9:55 p.m.
)
Perseverance & Diffidence
Robbin
(
2/18/2011 12:50 p.m.
)
There is my [view] I thought it would interest you
Stephanie
(
2/18/2011 11:39 p.m.
)
Diffidence & Friendship
Robbin
(
2/21/2011 12:56 p.m.
)
Distrust makes more sense
Frances G
(
2/18/2011 10:25 p.m.
)
Before Jane was 9.
Reeba
(
2/19/2011 3:26 a.m.
)
Unfair & Out of the Way
Robbin
(
2/21/2011 1:24 p.m.
)
But she gets stonewalled when she does ;-)
Reeba
(
2/21/2011 5:31 p.m.
)
Furthering their Acquaintance
Robbin
(
2/22/2011 1:43 p.m.
)
The portion you have bolded
Ramya
(
2/22/2011 2:26 p.m.
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Overcoming Jane’s Reserve
Robbin
(
2/23/2011 9:23 a.m.
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So, I look up every early reference I can find to Jane, ...
gianni
(
2/21/2011 11:41 p.m.
)
Distrust again
Frances G
(
2/23/2011 11:50 p.m.
)
Impertinent, even aggressive questions
Robbin
(
2/23/2011 11:02 a.m.
)
I agree. Jane is quite...
Reeba
(
2/23/2011 11:48 a.m.
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will do each other any good
Stephanie
(
2/27/2011 2:58 p.m.
)
Jane's Dislike & Suspicions
Robbin
(
2/23/2011 12:38 p.m.
)
But you both ...
gianni
(
2/22/2011 11:32 p.m.
)
Miss Bates' letters to Jane....
Reeba
(
2/22/2011 7:46 a.m.
)
PS:
Reeba
(
2/22/2011 9:40 a.m.
)
Inside the Brain of Jane
Robbin
(
2/23/2011 11:44 a.m.
)
I Beg to Disagree about Emma's Questions
Jane Marie
(
2/22/2011 5:52 a.m.
)
Personal versus Business Questions
Robbin
(
2/23/2011 10:33 a.m.
)
Jane Only Owes a Civil Answer
Jane Marie
(
2/22/2011 6:20 a.m.
)
Mr. Knightly Assumes
Jane Marie
(
2/17/2011 6:23 p.m.
)
pray do not make any more matches
Stephanie
(
2/18/2011 12:10 p.m.
)
I thought "diffidence" meant shy here? NFM
Jane Marie
(
2/17/2011 9:58 a.m.
)
So did I!
Stephanie
(
2/17/2011 1:34 p.m.
)
We aren't indeed
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/14/2011 6:48 p.m.
)
My conclusion.
Reeba
(
2/15/2011 9:29 a.m.
)
Thank you for explaining
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/15/2011 7:34 p.m.
)
Ah, but that's why I find Emma so amusing. :) nfm
Reeba
(
2/16/2011 3:19 a.m.
)
Good Point nfm
BarbaraB
(
2/14/2011 1:09 p.m.
)
I don't think its...
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 10:40 a.m.
)
It cannot be envy of Emma ...
Rabab
(
2/13/2011 6:02 a.m.
)
Duty versus sincerity?
Patricia AA
(
2/13/2011 10:39 a.m.
)
neither provocation nor resentment were discerned
Stephanie
(
2/14/2011 3:18 p.m.
)
Emma's contrast to Miss Campbell
Nikki N
(
2/13/2011 7:29 a.m.
)
Emm and Jane
Bridget D
(
2/11/2011 6:00 p.m.
)
At liberty to be cool, but not at Emma's place IMO....
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 7:40 p.m.
)
Jane
Bridget D
(
2/12/2011 3:44 a.m.
)
having paid the smallest attention to any one
Stephanie
(
2/12/2011 7:04 p.m.
)
Jane
Bridget D
(
2/13/2011 2:52 a.m.
)
yes, exactly
Nikki N
(
2/13/2011 3:08 a.m.
)
Disagree that she is envious of Emma. Both are
AnnetteJ
(
2/11/2011 10:58 a.m.
)
I agree.
Patricia AA
(
2/11/2011 9:34 a.m.
)
I like it that Jane stonewalled Emma -- it gives Jane
AnnetteJ
(
2/11/2011 9:42 a.m.
)
You may throw as many bricks as you like, but...
Felicity
(
2/13/2011 8:50 a.m.
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Emma was not impertinent
Patricia AA
(
2/13/2011 10:55 a.m.
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Abominable Pride
Tarn
(
2/13/2011 1:21 p.m.
)
Was it really that inappropriate to ask?
Patricia AA
(
2/13/2011 1:48 p.m.
)
Snooping versus Complimenting
Robbin
(
2/13/2011 12:18 p.m.
)
"I am disappointed," was his only answer.
Stephanie
(
2/14/2011 4:44 p.m.
)
Unreasonable Expectations
Robbin
(
2/15/2011 9:01 p.m.
)
The other circumstance of regret
Stephanie
(
2/16/2011 10:06 p.m.
)
Yes, it does seem like...
Rabab
(
2/14/2011 12:04 a.m.
)
I agree. Emma is as subtle as a woodpecker. Why
AnnetteJ
(
2/13/2011 12:51 p.m.
)
Jane’s Health
Robbin
(
2/13/2011 6:05 p.m.
)
That's very normal with...
Reeba
(
2/13/2011 3:57 p.m.
)
There is a difference between having an open temper and
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/14/2011 12:21 p.m.
)
I think Emma would....
Reeba
(
2/14/2011 2:14 p.m.
)
Well, I think we must agree to disagree
Kathleen Glancy
(
2/14/2011 3:05 p.m.
)
I agree with your observations on Jane Fairfax's
Patricia AA
(
2/11/2011 5:47 p.m.
)
does Emma lead a completely idle life?
Ra
(
2/11/2011 6:16 a.m.
)
Of course not.
Reeba
(
2/11/2011 6:21 a.m.
)
lol! we take ourselves too seriously here nfm
Ra
(
2/11/2011 6:53 a.m.
)
What's the hurry about governessing?
Louise H
(
2/10/2011 11:55 a.m.
)
Governessing
Bridget D
(
2/10/2011 2:51 p.m.
)
Being a burden?
Lynn
(
2/10/2011 12:58 p.m.
)
She's not a burden to her family.
Graciela
(
2/10/2011 1:55 p.m.
)
What I meant was...
Lynn
(
2/11/2011 12:47 p.m.
)
Jane Fairfax's sense of duty
TimLee
(
2/11/2011 1:07 p.m.
)
"What must be at last, had better be soon."
Louise H
(
2/10/2011 2:07 p.m.
)
Jane as governess
Bridget D
(
2/10/2011 3:28 p.m.
)
Fresh off her education
Ramya
(
2/10/2011 2:26 p.m.
)
governesses
Nikki N
(
2/11/2011 1:45 a.m.
)
Interesting. Thanks, all. (nfm)
Louise H
(
2/11/2011 10:07 a.m.
)
Teach at a school? JA's other Emma could think of nothing worse.
Tom P2
(
2/10/2011 6:25 p.m.
)
Good analysis of Jane Fairfax's circumstances. The
AnnetteJ
(
2/10/2011 8:45 a.m.
)
I've always felt that the resentment rather cut both ways.
Patricia AA
(
2/10/2011 5:12 p.m.
)
This seems a bit harsh to me
Laraine
(
2/10/2011 2:17 p.m.
)
It appears
Ramya
(
2/10/2011 2:32 p.m.
)
discreet and reserved
Nikki N
(
2/11/2011 1:25 a.m.
)
Perhaps Jane Fairfax senses a lack of sincerity in
AnnetteJ
(
2/10/2011 3:07 p.m.
)
I don't want to start a shy/reserved
Ramya
(
2/10/2011 3:54 p.m.
)
Emma and Jane
Bridget D
(
2/11/2011 1:23 a.m.
)
Emma Jane
Bridget D
(
2/10/2011 3:01 p.m.
)
I don't see Jane
Ramya
(
2/10/2011 3:58 p.m.
)
Emma as Patroness
Bridget D
(
2/11/2011 1:26 a.m.
)
An interesting point
Nancy Ann
(
2/10/2011 9:15 a.m.
)
Yes, it's a wonder she's not worse at this point! (NFM)
jeffrey
(
2/10/2011 10:30 a.m.
)
I agree! It is sometimes hard to argue with Jane Austen's
AnnetteJ
(
2/10/2011 10:05 a.m.
)
Mr. Elton and Jane Fairfax
Jane Marie
(
2/10/2011 12:41 p.m.
)
Jane Fairfax and Fanny Price
Nikki N
(
2/10/2011 5:31 a.m.
)
Col Campbell
Bridget D
(
2/10/2011 7:21 a.m.
)
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